The gifts of infidelity | Kelsey Grant | TEDxGastownWomen

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  • Published: 31 August 2015
  • In this talk, Kelsey tells the story of her lover's infidelity. While at first heartbroken, she was able to pull three "gifts" from the experience, and is grateful for it and where it took her and her partner.
    Kelsey Grant is passionate about living in a world where people feel inspired, fulfilled, balanced and happy within the expansiveness of their intimate relationships. As a Relationship Coach rooted in Radical Self Love Methodology, her writing has been featured on various platforms such as My Tiny Secrets, One Life Momentum, Independent Awakening and Young and Raw.

    When she is not writing about love or supporting coaches, thought leaders and game changers in accessing greater alignment for their leadership and relationships to thrive, she is busy running a local sisterhood circle that is a safe space for women to share what is really going on behind the scenes of their lives.

    Currently, she is teaching “The Alchemy Of Love” program- her flagship series designed to create proper space from the inside out, for love to emerge in a greater way than ever before.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

Comments • 685

  • Ken Alvarez
    Ken Alvarez  19 часов назад

    I missed the point or lesson of this one... someone explain...

    • maria etorma
      maria etorma  День назад

      This is pretty interesting... 🤔

      • Sophia Cabais
        Sophia Cabais  День назад

        Sounds like a mom scolding the affair partner and your so call boy-friend lol!You guys were only dating you guys weren’t married.m right?This doesn’t make any sense!Smh!

        • Jarod Johnson
          Jarod Johnson  2 дня назад

          One of a woman's better is that most of them don't mind sharing. Remember fellas if U have at least 2 women one is your main and the other on standby, U can only multiple from there. This story proofs it. She hooked back up with a guy who cheated and instead of approaching him, she rather go after the girl instead of going to the source

          • Tony Hippensteel
            Tony Hippensteel  2 дня назад

            3 times in 3 years? WTF Wake up girl!

            • videofan1010
              videofan1010  3 дня назад

              She reached out to the other woman and told HER to stop doing what SHE'S doing? Girl! That woman didn't cheat on you - your man did!

              • MFO
                MFO  4 дня назад

                Wow this is so deluded and disappointing! So sad she’s presenting this to young women as acceptable. Self-love? Oh honey he’s got you brainwashed in cult preportions!

                • sbnsbaker1
                  sbnsbaker1  5 дней назад

                  This poor woman is a Door Mat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  • Michael Kim
                    Michael Kim  5 дней назад

                    Just from reading the comments, I couldn't take the video seriously anymore

                    • kerri jade
                      kerri jade  7 дней назад

                      AHHH eye see a lot of people being triggered in the commentary .... 👁🦋

                      • Jason Trayer
                        Jason Trayer  10 дней назад

                        This is completely absurd. Unconditional love doesn’t exist in this context. Sounds like she’s okay with her partner doing this and she is making excuses to accept it.

                        • jan m
                          jan m  12 дней назад

                          Rediculous. Did she ever hear of boundaries? Unconditional love goes both ways. So unhealthy. Her definition of love is one-sided. Ugh....God help us all!

                          • Sammi Elisabeth
                            Sammi Elisabeth  12 дней назад

                            Pfffftttt.... Rubbish and gobblety goop

                            • Robert Gramckow
                              Robert Gramckow  13 дней назад

                              Kelsey Grant, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

                              • Christine Tina D
                                Christine Tina D  13 дней назад

                                This just taught me that cheaters will always cheat🙄

                                • Joseph Nyaware
                                  Joseph Nyaware  14 дней назад

                                  Not healthy. You must recorgonize mistake for what it is and not justify it. You have only set yourself up for future disapointment.

                                  • J V
                                    J V  14 дней назад

                                    she sure self loves herself when she's overweight

                                    • Joefest99
                                      Joefest99  14 дней назад

                                      And this is how you get played.

                                      • Joefest99
                                        Joefest99  14 дней назад

                                        It’s not just about the trust, it’s DANGEROUS! The STD’s you both must have!...oh God!

                                        • Joefest99
                                          Joefest99  14 дней назад

                                          By spreading this delusion you are subjecting more women to being taken serious advantage of.

                                          • Joefest99
                                            Joefest99  14 дней назад

                                            Soooooo, your jealous suspicion was RIGHT? You sound like a battered woman that that keeps going back and blaming herself. I’m not trying to be insulting, but you are deluding yourself about this dude and you are going to, if you have not already, going to contract STD’s. It doesn’t mean that you weren’t being overbearing and didn’t need work, but that guy, now that he knows you’ll put up with it, will NEVER stop cheating. Trust me!

                                            • vio love
                                              vio love  14 дней назад

                                              I dt see his man doing any work on himdlself but rather the woman!!!! Duh pliz help me here

                                              • Ariana De La Concha
                                                Ariana De La Concha  15 дней назад

                                                Powerful. I have experienced many heart breaks . They have really built my self love and confidence. These experiences have changed the way I saw love 20 years ago. I learned what truelove is. I am proud to be with my partner and though we have had our test we have remained strong. I am so thankful for my test.

                                                • It's Sebas
                                                  It's Sebas  16 дней назад

                                                  Wtf

                                                  • Fylosofy
                                                    Fylosofy  17 дней назад

                                                    Kind of an oxymoron that she talks about giving unconditional love to someone who obviously has conditions for being with her. And in all of this, she totally turns a blind eye to the fact that he is just a cheater because there are other ways of dealing with not getting everything you want from a relationship and infidelity is just one of them, but actions speak louder than words and consistency speak louder than actions. If she truly loved herself the way she proclaims she does, she would've left because she would realize that someone that loves themselves would not allow themselves to get cheated on repeatedly. Her partner is simply a cheater but she has just given him the green light to repeatedly cheat because she gets good lessons from them infidelities.

                                                    • Muzzy337
                                                      Muzzy337  19 дней назад

                                                      So the obvious question 4 years later is ... are they still together today???

                                                      • Muzzy337
                                                        Muzzy337  19 дней назад

                                                        Honey, he's banging other women. What's the matter with you?

                                                        • Gil Gillis
                                                          Gil Gillis  22 дня назад

                                                          She did great with the girl, but the problem is the boyfriend.

                                                          • Laura Saul
                                                            Laura Saul  22 дня назад

                                                            If The Onion was doing a Ted Talk, this would be it. I’ve listened to many Ted talks, I can’t believe they gave this woman a platform. Why don’t you “hold space” for yourself.

                                                            • Henry Ngo
                                                              Henry Ngo  23 дня назад

                                                              She is an ultimate lover that let infidelity rolls. She built a self defence. That's all.

                                                              • Advanced skepticism
                                                                Advanced skepticism  23 дня назад

                                                                Why not find someone that is deserving of this kind of love?? It's ridiculous that she stayed in this kind of relationship... The lessons gained from this can easily be used for someone else deserving of it!

                                                                • Ludwig Henderson
                                                                  Ludwig Henderson  23 дня назад

                                                                  I think she can help him as a therapist, but right now she is not loving herself by doing that "unconditional" love. We all deserve a respectful relationship.

                                                                  • jonny incognito
                                                                    jonny incognito  27 дней назад

                                                                    Actually, the final "gift" was probably syphilis 😬

                                                                    • Lilou
                                                                      Lilou  28 дней назад

                                                                      Boundaries? No? What do we do about boundaries?

                                                                      • Leo B
                                                                        Leo B  17 дней назад

                                                                        In her case, she is saying to throw them out of the window. In the beginning of her talk, she asked everyone to forget about how horrible infidelity is. Also, she is so focused on that word, "unconditional". Frankly, that's what boundaries are. They are conditions. In other words, "If you want to be with me, you need to treat me with respect and be loyal, otherwise, we can't be together". That term "unconditional love" is misleading and she is using it as an excuse to stay with him. Yes, you should always continue to have a loving attitude toward people, but you shouldn't keep them in your life if they don't satisfy the condition of treating you properly.

                                                                        • Dave Ward
                                                                          Dave Ward  28 дней назад

                                                                          A very beautiful woman......

                                                                          • afusmackdown
                                                                            afusmackdown  29 дней назад

                                                                            If she is happy with her relationship and accepts he will always stray and is good with that than I wish her the best. If she in any way believes this wont happen again than she is delusional and that is sad. I just got out of a relationship that from the outside looked like heaven. We laughed and danced and hugged and kissed all the time and we loved each other very much. But then there was the other side and I made a decision that I deserved better. I miss her terribly, I love her still and always will but I deserve better. I am also of the belief that I may never find what I am looking for but I deserve better. I'm a 54 year old widower I will not settle for what this woman is living with. If she came to herself as a client she would tell her to expect more form a partner. I sit here alone in my kitchen just finishing a meal alone and I would rather do that than live the lie.

                                                                            • G Johnson
                                                                              G Johnson  Месяц назад

                                                                              Classic narcissist and victim 🙄...what’s disturbing is she is coaching other people on relationships.

                                                                              • wingsandstrings
                                                                                wingsandstrings  Месяц назад

                                                                                Youre only lying to yourself. NOBODY gets over infidelity. It destroys the relationship. Move on.

                                                                                • Sunshine & SweetTeaPlz
                                                                                  Sunshine & SweetTeaPlz  Месяц назад

                                                                                  THIS IS WHAT A LADY LOOKS LIKE FOLKS. JUDGING BY THE COMMENTS, SHE NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT HOW RU-clipRS CAN TAKE MENTAL NOTE. THIS BEHAVIOR IS SO UNHEARD OF BECAUSE OF HOW HARD IT IS TO ACT ON.👏VERY NICE PUBLIC SPEAKER. A TRUE LADY IN MY BOOK.

                                                                                  • Andrea
                                                                                    Andrea  Месяц назад

                                                                                    Loving yourself means respecting yourself. You can do all the work to love yourself while being in a healthy relationship, with somebody that respects you.

                                                                                    • Dr. Waako Barbie
                                                                                      Dr. Waako Barbie  Месяц назад

                                                                                      Compassion because he slipped and fell on top of another women? 😂

                                                                                      • Dr. Waako Barbie
                                                                                        Dr. Waako Barbie  Месяц назад

                                                                                        What part did God play in your self discovery?

                                                                                        • Destry
                                                                                          Destry  Месяц назад

                                                                                          LOLs. Proof women will always choose the "bad boy" . . .

                                                                                          • Kristy Lattanzio
                                                                                            Kristy Lattanzio  Месяц назад

                                                                                            This just makes me sad. Cheaters and their affair partners deserve NO compassion or love. She hasn't learned to love herself either if she stayed with the cheater. True self love is recognizing that you deserve better.

                                                                                            • Xaris Xeros
                                                                                              Xaris Xeros  Месяц назад

                                                                                              Well, she is just a modestly attractive woman that somehow married a man that either was or proved in the lapse of time to be of higher SMV than hers. It happens often as female SMV peaks in their early 20s and male SMV peaks in late 30s sometimes even in the 40s. If she knew she could land a man of higher SMV she would not be there that August of 2015 preaching her sorry state as some kind of "higher state of consciousness". LOL!

                                                                                              • Judy Chagraoui
                                                                                                Judy Chagraoui  Месяц назад

                                                                                                So basically no matter how many times he cheats it is ok because you love yourself? Gosh one time is bad enough but when it happens twice alarm bells should be ringing and you should be running no one deserves to be cheated on over and over again

                                                                                                • Judy Chagraoui
                                                                                                  Judy Chagraoui  Месяц назад

                                                                                                  Where is his respect for you?

                                                                                                  • Megz Wass
                                                                                                    Megz Wass  Месяц назад

                                                                                                    Nope, do not listen to this, just no.

                                                                                                    • Jordan Allen
                                                                                                      Jordan Allen  Месяц назад

                                                                                                      I suspected my wife of cheating on me but I never had any proof. This went on for months, I didn't know what to do. i was so paranoid and decided to find a solution, i saw a recommendation about a private investigator and decided to contact him. I explained the situation about my wife to him and he said he was going to help me.I gave him all the informations he required and afterwards i received all my wife’s Iphones Text messages, whatsApp messages and calls, I was hurt when i saw a picture of my wife and her lover. I feel so bad about infidelity. but i am glad Mr james was able to help me get all this information, you can contact him via Gmail (worldcyberhackers) or whatsApp : +12678773020

                                                                                                      • Theresa Gill
                                                                                                        Theresa Gill  Месяц назад

                                                                                                        Why do you feel you need to do something? This is on him! The unfaithful has the issue! These are his behaviours and patterns. You are a beautiful woman! you gave this women such a beautiful gift. However; are you okay to do this with the next , and the next and the next? These are his behaviours they may never change and each woman may not be so willing to be upfront. I hope you find true love and happiness. 🙏🏻❤️

                                                                                                        • Jordan Allen
                                                                                                          Jordan Allen  Месяц назад

                                                                                                          I suspected my wife of cheating on me but I never had any proof. This went on for months, I didn't know what to do. i was so paranoid and decided to find a solution, i saw a recommendation about a private investigator and decided to contact him. I explained the situation about my wife to him and he said he was going to help me.I gave him all the informations he required and afterwards i received all my wife’s Iphones Text messages, whatsApp messages and calls, I was hurt when i saw a picture of my wife and her lover. I feel so bad about infidelity. but i am glad Mr james was able to help me get all this information, you can contact him via Gmail (worldcyberhackers) or whatsApp : +12678773020

                                                                                                          • Darrius Cole
                                                                                                            Darrius Cole  Месяц назад

                                                                                                            P.S. On no planet should this woman be a relationship coach.

                                                                                                            • Jordan Allen
                                                                                                              Jordan Allen  Месяц назад

                                                                                                              I suspected my wife of cheating on me but I never had any proof. This went on for months, I didn't know what to do. i was so paranoid and decided to find a solution, i saw a recommendation about a private investigator and decided to contact him. I explained the situation about my wife to him and he said he was going to help me.I gave him all the informations he required and afterwards i received all my wife’s Iphones Text messages, whatsApp messages and calls, I was hurt when i saw a picture of my wife and her lover. I feel so bad about infidelity. but i am glad Mr james was able to help me get all this information, you can contact him via Gmail (worldcyberhackers) or whatsApp : +12678773020

                                                                                                              • Darrius Cole
                                                                                                                Darrius Cole  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                This guy cheats on her 3 times in 3 years and she thinks it's a good thing. While a guy who was actually good to her probably couldn't get a 2nd date from her. Chicks did jerks.

                                                                                                                • Jordan Allen
                                                                                                                  Jordan Allen  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                  I suspected my wife of cheating on me but I never had any proof. This went on for months, I didn't know what to do. i was so paranoid and decided to find a solution, i saw a recommendation about a private investigator and decided to contact him. I explained the situation about my wife to him and he said he was going to help me.I gave him all the informations he required and afterwards i received all my wife’s Iphones Text messages, whatsApp messages and calls, I was hurt when i saw a picture of my wife and her lover. I feel so bad about infidelity. but i am glad Mr james was able to help me get all this information, you can contact him via Gmail (worldcyberhackers) or whatsApp : +12678773020

                                                                                                                  • Stephanie Wilson
                                                                                                                    Stephanie Wilson  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                    I really thought she was going to say that because of her self love, she realized that she deserved monogamy and for that reason, she let his cheating behind go....The sad part is that she felt confident enough to voice this message. I hope one of the therapist in that room offered her some free sessions. Wrong message dear.

                                                                                                                    • Jordan Allen
                                                                                                                      Jordan Allen  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                      I suspected my wife of cheating on me but I never had any proof. This went on for months, I didn't know what to do. i was so paranoid and decided to find a solution, i saw a recommendation about a private investigator and decided to contact him. I explained the situation about my wife to him and he said he was going to help me.I gave him all the informations he required and afterwards i received all my wife’s Iphones Text messages, whatsApp messages and calls, I was hurt when i saw a picture of my wife and her lover. I feel so bad about infidelity. but i am glad Mr james was able to help me get all this information, you can contact him via Gmail (worldcyberhackers) or whatsApp : +12678773020

                                                                                                                      • Pork Chop
                                                                                                                        Pork Chop  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                        Borrrring

                                                                                                                        • Yariela Mendoza
                                                                                                                          Yariela Mendoza  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                          Wtf did I just watch !?

                                                                                                                          • Jordan Allen
                                                                                                                            Jordan Allen  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                            I suspected my wife of cheating on me but I never had any proof. This went on for months, I didn't know what to do. i was so paranoid and decided to find a solution, i saw a recommendation about a private investigator and decided to contact him. I explained the situation about my wife to him and he said he was going to help me.I gave him all the informations he required and afterwards i received all my wife’s Iphones Text messages, whatsApp messages and calls, I was hurt when i saw a picture of my wife and her lover. I feel so bad about infidelity. but i am glad Mr james was able to help me get all this information, you can contact him via Gmail (worldcyberhackers) or whatsApp : +12678773020

                                                                                                                            • A Place to Grow Fat and Complacent
                                                                                                                              A Place to Grow Fat and Complacent  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                              If you are self-righteous, resentment driven, and vindictive, then prepare to be pissed-off. Firstly, guess what? It really IS about you! How did YOU manage to get involved with someone who "cheated" you, and how could they "cheat" you out of something that never existed in the first place? You chose to get involved with them, and if you are capable of being rigorously honest with yourself, then you know damn well that there were small signs and gut feelings from the very beginning that YOU chose to ignore because it was more important to you to be in love with the idea of being in love with that person than it was to love yourself enough to be honest about who they really are. Yes, "anybody" can be fooled and fall prey to a pathological liar. But you never thought in a million years that "anybody" included you, did you? Secondly, did you ever develop and enforce personal boundaries, and did you ever get into the positive habit of respecting the boundaries set by others, and not just romantic partners? Because "cheaters", having few if any healthy boundaries themselves, are drawn towards partners who are the same way. How can someone "cheat" if there are no clearly stated, explicit and mutually negotiated and agreed upon rules in the first place? But that was their responsibility, not yours together, right? Finally, for those so egotistical as to think that they have no lessons to learn from the experience because "IT WAS ALL THEIR FAULT!", you are very likely to have it happen to you again (and again, and again, and again) until you wake up to the part you have been playing in all of it. Because, to use the old cliche, it really DOES take two to tango.

                                                                                                                              • Anton Opperman
                                                                                                                                Anton Opperman  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                1/10

                                                                                                                                • Tim van Haren
                                                                                                                                  Tim van Haren  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                  This woman seems somewhat ‘enlightened’ and talks like Jezus in the Bible. Give me this woman and i am blissed with gods hands 🙈. No really. She is a soul with courage. I understand that people hate on her and wan’t to take her down. That’s what humans do. I did when i was younger and less aware. Thumbs up for this pearl of all overstanding lesson of unconditional love. Light or darkness. Just pick your choice. Everyone is here for a reason. This woman just teached about love. For balance, now people will hate 😎😉

                                                                                                                                  • tracy lindquist
                                                                                                                                    tracy lindquist  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                    Sad

                                                                                                                                    • Tom ten
                                                                                                                                      Tom ten  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                      Try living with a broken heart for 30 years cuz you can't get divorced because it could bankrupt you

                                                                                                                                      • John Uher
                                                                                                                                        John Uher  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                        There is nothing good about infidelity... there are no golden nuggets of wisdom that comes from living with a cheater. And 3 times in 3 years? Who's zooming who? This woman needs a check up from the neck up!

                                                                                                                                        • Don Smith
                                                                                                                                          Don Smith  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                          "I have been faithful to the same partner for the last three years. " Alleycat.

                                                                                                                                          • Teri Lynn Wilkins
                                                                                                                                            Teri Lynn Wilkins  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                            As a coach for 15 years who specializes in infidelity, I want to say bravo Kelsey. I know that not many people are going to understand what you were saying here. It’s hard to hear a message like this when you are in pain. But what you said is true, it’s evolved and I for one understand it completely. It was not o of ,y experience, it is what I teach. I know you got hammered in these comments but I wanted you to know that I understand EXACTLY what you were trying to communicate. And the message is a good one.

                                                                                                                                            • Joseph Cavallaro Jr.
                                                                                                                                              Joseph Cavallaro Jr.  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                              it might be a toxic relationship, but you have to start somewhere. she is on the right path. but unless her boyfriend rises to her level, she will eventually love herself enough to leave him for someone more faithful.

                                                                                                                                              • Robert Reese
                                                                                                                                                Robert Reese  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                                This woman is batshit crazy.

                                                                                                                                                • Shuffle3956
                                                                                                                                                  Shuffle3956  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                                  This makes zero sense. You gotta work more on loving yourself. Find your true worth and value and find someone that loves you enough to not cheat 3x. This video is misleading and needs to be taken down. It makes simple minded people in trouble.

                                                                                                                                                  • Francie Odendahl
                                                                                                                                                    Francie Odendahl  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                                    I hear what she is saying and I agree. I would never be upset with the other woman. If anything I would be hurt not angry. Thankfully, I've never been jealous. Jealousy, is when you want to be someone else or want what someone else owns. That is not me. I will never push my way into a relationship. If someone doesn't sincerely want to be with me, and make a commitment , I let them go. I'd probably give him another chance though if I really felt we could make a life together and a commitment together. Sometimes commitment is just a maturity level not everyone reaches it at the same time. I'm all for second or third chances. I have never been jealous but I have been insecure. So, I can relate to those feelings of not being good enough or the risk of losing someone you love which is the biggest part for me. Everyone handles infidelity differently, to me it's not a deal-breaker if I truly love the person and did not want to lose them and we are made to be together and be a couple together, I can forgive. I won't hold onto negative feelings, I let them go and move on if I see someone is not interested in me. If they still want a committed relationship with me and willing to try again I have not problem with trying again. No one is perfect and the main thing is that you share a daily life together where you can build a beautiful life with each other. To me forgiveness is so key ro any relationship. And communication if someone doesn't love me anymore it's better that they tell me and then they can move on don't go beyond my back. If that doesn't occur you have to weigh the relationship and your love towards person. A lot of infidelity is due to low self-esteem too or they don't feel valued in the relationship or loved. It's best to be open and talk about it with your partner and maybe everything can be resolved before anyone cheats. But no, it's not a deal-breaker for me. unless we've been fighting all along and there's no love left in a relationship and he doesn't want to come back to me then I have to let go😢 if I don't have his heart I have nothing. Please excuse all the lack of grammar or run-on sentences or typos this autocorrect changes a lot.

                                                                                                                                                    • Richard Morley
                                                                                                                                                      Richard Morley  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                                      My lady of 18 years had two affairs thorght I new her not at all

                                                                                                                                                      • Air Ee
                                                                                                                                                        Air Ee  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                                        ...so she has no boundaries.

                                                                                                                                                        • Jade brice
                                                                                                                                                          Jade brice  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                                                          Message to the other woman was beautiful like that is so true however you do deserve more than your man is giving you

                                                                                                                                                          • Taylor Zamora
                                                                                                                                                            Taylor Zamora  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                            Girl y’all have been together for 3 YEARS and he’s cheated on you 3 TIMES??

                                                                                                                                                            • yomiliciouss
                                                                                                                                                              yomiliciouss  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                              Wtf did I just watch 😂

                                                                                                                                                              • Aliwaqar Aliwaqar
                                                                                                                                                                Aliwaqar Aliwaqar  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                                😍🌹

                                                                                                                                                                • 1gpd eon
                                                                                                                                                                  1gpd eon  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                                  You’ve set yourself up for future infidelity. Why would you waste your precious time on someone who clearly has no respect for women. You and the other woman need to kick him to the curb. I can say this because I have experienced it and not only did he manage to hurt me but our children have lost all respect for him.

                                                                                                                                                                  • Doug DoesIt
                                                                                                                                                                    Doug DoesIt  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                                    Funny, at a celebration for immorality, she meets an immoral guy, he does what immoral people do, and she finds value out of the immorality. Made for each other. No wonder they fit. LOL