How to attract men - with no effort...

  • Published: 27 March 2019
  • How to attract men - with no effort? Get it all here:
    How To Attract Men With MINIMAL Effort… 7 Tips
    Yeah, if there’s a superpower to be had, I’m betting you’d like this one - Knowing exactly how to attract men.
    And with almost no effort.
    Sound interesting?
    I’m sure it does. After all, it’s the holy grail of relationship freedom. You could literally choose the kind of man you want and make him yours.
    Even if he’s out of your league!
    Well, that’s what we’re going to discuss here today.
    It all comes down to science, really. There’s no magic to it. You just have to know what men are looking for and then give it to ’em!
    And no, I’m not talking about jumping into bed with him. In reality, that doesn’t make a man attracted to you. I’ll explain more about why in just a bit.
    It all really comes down to evolutionary science - the ways that we evolved to suit the needs of our environment.
    So if you want to know how to attract men with minimal effort, I think I’ve got what you’re looking for.
    Let’s get started with some basics…
    What You Don’t Know About How To Attract Men
    First, men feel TWO kinds of attraction:
    It’s true. Men have these two distinct ways that they feel attraction to a woman, and most women think it’s all about the appearance.
    Sure, a man does need to feel that chemistry with you, but he also needs to feel something more powerful in his CORE to really fall in love.
    Sexual attraction is what a guy feels when he finds your appearance sexually appealing. This is what guys mean when they say you’re “hot.”
    Guys are pre-programmed to see certain parts of a woman.
    He looks at her chest because that tells him if she could nourish a baby - and that she’s of the right age…
    He looks at her hips and butt because that tells him if she could bear children without a risk to her health - and again, if she’s of age…
    He looks at her hair to see if she’s healthy (the sheen of your hair is a strong indicator of your health)
    There are a ton more indicators like this - visual indications - and he looks at all of them to see if you would be a great prospect as a “mom.”
    Betcha didn’t know this was going on behind the scenes, right?
    Okay now -
    Spiritual attraction is what a guy feels when he feels like you might be “The One” for him. He feels like you could be his soulmate.
    Now before you go bonkers thinking that guys don’t think this way - think again!
    Men are actually MORE likely to consider a woman a potential soulmate than she would. He’s quicker to assume a certain woman is “The One” for him. Women take a lot more time to make this decision.
    He’s looking at a lot of subtle other indications that you are going to meet some of the psychological qualities he needs. Like loyalty, resilience, and stability.
    He needs to know you’ve got good character - and that you will still be able to nurture HIM at the end of the day, after he’s done hunting mammoths.
    Well, okay- guys don’t have to do THAT anymore, but you see where the behavior got started.
    Okay, now it’s on to my -
    7 Tips for How To Attract Men - with little to NO effort…
    How To Attract Men - Tip #1: Be as Girly As You Can…
    I have a feeling this will be one of the most controversial tips I can offer you. But it’s also the most TRUE.
    The more manly a man is, the more he’s attracted to what we think of as “Feminine” traits. The more testosterone he’s got going on his system, the more he’s going to look for a girly girl to counter it and compliment it.
    You may have even noticed this in the real world, in the opposite way. If a guy is a bit on the “soft” and dainty side, he tends to fall towards a woman that most matches his opposite. So he winds up with a woman who is more dominating, more controlling, and less feminine.
    Fortunately, this is only a small percentage of the population. But if you were to compare today to 30 years ago, the difference in men’s (and women’s) behavior would probably startle you.
    Let me say this another way, and I’ll be more direct:
    Men are attracted to ...
    To find out - watch the video!

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Comments • 82

  • Yahm Ortiz
    Yahm Ortiz  День назад

    Thank you Very educational ❤️❤️❤️

    • Truthseeker
      Truthseeker  21 день назад

      My ex looks at boobs because he needs a mother figure, he is a manchild very codependant on his mum. He likes big boobs because of this. So I lost loads of weight and my boobs shrank, got rid of him much easier./

      • CiCi Chambers
        CiCi Chambers  Месяц назад

        If I could double not like this I would

        • Carlos Cavallo
          Carlos Cavallo   Месяц назад

          Wow, Cici - you not only spend a long time commenting on this video - you did it twice! Rather than "double-not-liking" something, just move on to something that *does* appeal to you. I feel your anger and wish I could help you more. Best to you...

          • CiCi Chambers
            CiCi Chambers  Месяц назад

            Men don’t respect women in the job. And fuck needing to lead. How dare you say YOUR intelligence to lead. Relationships are a partnership. Not a person following like a servant. Of course you want to tell women to be passive and demure. It lets you feel superior so you can “lead”. Here’s a clue: If a woman succeeding and you working with her is a challenge to your manhood, then that is your insecurity, not ours. Try changing men to have the same innate respect for a woman who walks into the boardroom as a man who walks in. You want us to be successful, but not more than you. You want us to smile....but want to insult us. You want us to use what we have...that’s brains, style, everything. But you call is a bitch or manly if we take it up to a level you’ll respect. If we dress for ourselves and look beautiful you don’t respect us at all until we cater to your ego??? Just stopppppppp w the shitty advice telling women to stop being themselves. How about guys start coming to work naked?? And stay hot guys. Muscles only. Dad bods aren’t for capable men. Man boobs are loser tits. Flirt?!?!?? You’re talking about work and telling us to flirt?!?! Are you ducking kidding me?!?? What a sexist pig

            • CiCi Chambers
              CiCi Chambers  Месяц назад

              Carlos Cavallo my “anger” is a label you’re applying to support your “case” that women should only be strong to a point. Successful to a point. Flirt at work ...uh, hello...women get in trouble for that. PS - it’s not spiritual. Religion is a man made construct to rule through the once unknown and fear. What you call spiritual is “intellect” “feeling” “emotion” and seeing her value in his life. What you later call character. Femininity isn’t weak. It’s the strongest attribute on the planet. Femininity isn’t passive. When used properly it’s manipulation to let a man think he’s coming up with the ideas. Subordinate and submissive are passive and weak and what you’re advocating. Please, please....learn what womanhood is. It’s not bible ordained...king James made sure women were seen as harlot or saint for his own devices. Funny how the only woman in the Bible having kids out of wedlock who needed saving was Mary. It’s not a coincidence. To be your best and utmost does not need a man’s guidance or permission. A partner, regardless of gender - sees you, pushes you, and vibes with you. Complimenting intelligence sandwiched after bad advice, and then “of you follow me”.... my compliments on having studied persuasive conversation. Maybe try a new thing and become more of an egalitarian and less of a voice to keep women subjugated and second class. We already have hard enough time striving for equality under the law When we have old school men making laws about OUR bodies. Everything is tied. You, sir, are a proponent of the patriarchy.

              • Carlos Cavallo
                Carlos Cavallo   Месяц назад

                You've got a lot of anger in your comments, Cici. I hope you find a way to get past your blocks... Namaste

                • Pam DeMers
                  Pam DeMers  Месяц назад

                  Carlos, I waited for 15 years, lol finally encountered him on Lava Life.

                  • Carlos Cavallo
                    Carlos Cavallo   Месяц назад

                    Persistence pays off! So happy for you...

                    • LOKING GOOD BROWNEYEGIRL
                      LOKING GOOD BROWNEYEGIRL  Месяц назад

                      Just now he puts his junk in my face Rachel Rio Hernandez. You dontbknowat we do.

                      • Rachel Lee
                        Rachel Lee  Месяц назад

                        I want to be a girly girl 😫😣😘

                        • Alicia Celestine
                          Alicia Celestine  Месяц назад

                          Thanks for sharing 😁 😁❤️

                          • nina 27
                            nina 27  2 месяца назад

                            How to attract a guy on social media but were not friends on Twitter or Facebook but i starting to like his page and commenting there,do i have to send him a friend request? Teach me please this is my first time to follow a famous guy please and advance thanks if you could atlist give me some advice 🙇

                            • Mr. Thanos the predators hunter
                              Mr. Thanos the predators hunter  2 месяца назад

                              Ladies.... Ladies.... Attracting men is easiest thing you woman can do.. Just give a good sexy smile, now we are your :-) Edit - don't give extra dose otherwise he will die because of heart attack and heart attack will caused by super excitement so make sure not to give overdose..

                              • Bhushita Mahanta
                                Bhushita Mahanta  2 месяца назад

                                Spiritual is good. ❤️

                                • DEbby simelane
                                  DEbby simelane  3 месяца назад


                                  • Queen Sumo
                                    Queen Sumo  3 месяца назад

                                    I love him💕

                                    • Shatari Holmes
                                      Shatari Holmes  3 месяца назад

                                      When he need me he always asking me for money or food but i cant get nothing back from him help me what u think

                                      • nofy bn
                                        nofy bn  2 месяца назад

                                        DUMP HIM!!

                                        • Shatari Holmes
                                          Shatari Holmes  3 месяца назад

                                          If your man say he not cheating but he always get caught up texting girls or them calling !! him on messager and he dont pick up and say he dont know who she is...but tell me he gotta go to the bathroom and than he calls them back and i heard him say ima call u back he was in there a while and i told him why u on the phone with another lady he tells me i told her im with my lady i said if u dont know her why explain he get mad with me

                                          • nofy bn
                                            nofy bn  2 месяца назад

                                            DUMP HIM!!

                                            • Dulce Padilla
                                              Dulce Padilla  3 месяца назад

                                              Carlos the problem nowadays is that many folks just want to play games so it's not that simple finding someone.... If there is one thing I really hate is people taking my valuable time. I just don't have time for the games and if that's the case I rather stay single. It's called self love!

                                              • Melanin Goddess
                                                Melanin Goddess  17 дней назад

                                                @SevySp Thats Bull..

                                                • Sandra Jefferson
                                                  Sandra Jefferson  Месяц назад

                                                  Dulce Padilla girl tell me about it, there so many play boys these days all thanks to internet dating, they are only there to find a hook up I avoid them but it’s getting so tiring dealing with all these man 😫😫

                                                  • SevySp
                                                    SevySp  3 месяца назад

                                                    That's true, but if you are not playing games yourself (consciously or subconsciously), you won't be attracted to those people in the first place. That's how you dodge them. By simply not being into that.

                                                    • VapeKing
                                                      VapeKing  3 месяца назад

                                                      As a 46yo male I find that what men need more of is a hint or flirt to know you are attracted. Most men will not approach someone unless they are pretty sure that interest is shown and even then some men may need a little more to get the hint.

                                                      • Mr. Thanos the predators hunter
                                                        Mr. Thanos the predators hunter  2 месяца назад

                                                        @nofy bn, what is those risks?? We men take risks for greater reward..

                                                        • nofy bn
                                                          nofy bn  2 месяца назад

                                                          It is your job to take the risk. There is no risk. Far more risk for us.

                                                          • royalty085
                                                            royalty085  3 месяца назад

                                                            Just start a conversation with her as a friendly person with no agenda. If the conversation goes well, she'll be interested in getting to know you better. If not, you're still a nice and decent gentleman. You d

                                                            • T Palmer
                                                              T Palmer  3 месяца назад

                                                              I agree with Michelle. I grew up and came of age during the female revolution. It was dictated to me that I was supposed to be manly and not need a man and I don't know how to need a man.

                                                              • Mr. Thanos the predators hunter
                                                                Mr. Thanos the predators hunter  2 месяца назад

                                                                @nofy bn, hey girl.. submit yourself sexualy, not intellectually.. If you will submit yourself sexualy, he will more willing to please you.. Change your thought on relationship, in relationship there is no 50/50 or partnership.. Stop looking relationship in terms of business.. For men, she is his woman and for women, he is her man..

                                                                • nofy bn
                                                                  nofy bn  2 месяца назад

                                                                  It isn't manly to not need a man, it is human. Women should NOT depend on a man, he will leave you or will cheat and you will leave him and you will have kids as well and no income!

                                                                  • nofy bn
                                                                    nofy bn  2 месяца назад

                                                                    @VapeKing Submit? Sexist. WE ARE PARTNERS! I AM NOT LESS THEN YOU!! I don't like the words, submit or lead. Women act that way because he doesn't step up!

                                                                    • VapeKing
                                                                      VapeKing  3 месяца назад

                                                                      Im a 46yo male and I know what I want is a woman who knows how to treat a man and can submit to him. Allow me to be in charge and take the lead. We want the oppisite of what we are basically. I love a very femine woman who allows me to take care of her and protect her. Its the modern feminist ladys we are not attracted to the ones who dont "need" a man. A great relationship needs yin and yang!

                                                                      • Mihaela Smarandescu
                                                                        Mihaela Smarandescu  3 месяца назад


                                                                        • Digital Zealot
                                                                          Digital Zealot  3 месяца назад

                                                                          I hate when dating coaches say being less feminine is a bad thing or isn't attractive. Not every women wants a hypermasculine dominaning manly man. Some more dominant women want a more sensitive man. Sometimes, being girly doesn't come naturally to some women. That doesn't make them less of a man, as long as they identify as one. Humans are very complex and not this simple to understand. Also I don't believe that masculine and feminine aren't entirely dependant on gender. Not every man wants a passive, submissive woman.

                                                                          • Mr. Thanos the predators hunter
                                                                            Mr. Thanos the predators hunter  2 месяца назад

                                                                            Submission in which form?? No one like to be submissive in term of intelligence.. A man want to lead.. If woman submit herself sexualy to her man, she enjoy sex more..

                                                                            • nofy bn
                                                                              nofy bn  2 месяца назад


                                                                              • Aviarygarden
                                                                                Aviarygarden  3 месяца назад

                                                                                Hi @Carlos, what if “Flirting like your life depends on it” feels like performing TRICKS??? 🙁 What if overtly flirting feels like. chasing. Feels very unfeminine...just sexualizing to get attention... Not spiritual. Your insight is so appreciated.

                                                                                • Nalucha chimanda
                                                                                  Nalucha chimanda  3 месяца назад

                                                                                  how abt me that wants to b more loved n that if he ent pulling he ent weath me,,I'm deserve better,,I'm I to naive😵

                                                                                  • Jingjuan Qi
                                                                                    Jingjuan Qi  3 месяца назад

                                                                                    You are the best!

                                                                                    • Michelle Finn
                                                                                      Michelle Finn  4 месяца назад

                                                                                      This helped me a lot, thank you Carlos! ☺️ I’m putting these tips to practice

                                                                                      • Cindy Lou
                                                                                        Cindy Lou  4 месяца назад

                                                                               shy. demure and non agressive but Flirt like you're life depends on it?..which is agressive 🤔

                                                                                        • Cutepuppylover 555
                                                                                          Cutepuppylover 555  4 месяца назад

                                                                                          😂😂😂🙏🏼❤️😢 I can’t I am watching this over and over j’adore my friend Carl lmao

                                                                                          • Cutepuppylover 555
                                                                                            Cutepuppylover 555  4 месяца назад

                                                                                            This guy is the goat 🐐

                                                                                            • Sandra Fabian
                                                                                              Sandra Fabian  4 месяца назад

                                                                                              I love all of your videos and I always literally take notes. Thank you so much, Carlos!

                                                                                              • Sandra Fabian
                                                                                                Sandra Fabian  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                "High school degree" lol

                                                                                                • NovaStarArts
                                                                                                  NovaStarArts  4 месяца назад


                                                                                                  • Norm N
                                                                                                    Norm N  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                    Should I read or listen to this? Because my mind is doing both, and I am losing focus.

                                                                                                    • Nalini Singh
                                                                                                      Nalini Singh  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                      Interesting tips thank you peace 🙏 and love

                                                                                                      • Allison Brown
                                                                                                        Allison Brown  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                        What about trying to reach retract somebody that you dated in the past who you really want to rekindle things with ?

                                                                                                        • Georgia Conti
                                                                                                          Georgia Conti  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                          This sounds like a lot of effort to me. I attract all kinds of cool guys by just bopping along being myself, and in love with my life. Will that work for you? I don't works for me!

                                                                                                          • Jenevie Brown
                                                                                                            Jenevie Brown  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                            I like your presentation thank you so much for your advice

                                                                                                            • Be True B M
                                                                                                              Be True B M  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                              apart form that excellent advice i have subscribed to this channel.

                                                                                                              • Be True B M
                                                                                                                Be True B M  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                Not true at all at least the first bit i think a guy when he looks at your booty and other parts doesn't mean he thinks you will be a good mother or if she can bear children nobody thinks that far at all. They just find someone hot they think they can have thats all. I have heard many guys go for 4ft women and with no looks complete ugly women i doubt it they considered all the facts at all.

                                                                                                                • Brytanika Gonzalez
                                                                                                                  Brytanika Gonzalez  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                  First of all being sexist and not trying to understand men will get you no where, you have to think like a man and educate yourself on how they work before you will be successful with them. Second, you may be ignorant to your own self and not see what your doing wrong. It takes two but you have to be open minded and soak up all the knowledge out there that you possibly can about not only men but yourself as a woman. I've learned things about myself that I wasn't aware of by watching these videos and now i have the knowledge to take the steps to improve and fix myself for my husband. I'm not saying im in the wrong completely, he has his issues but learning all you can about men then taking the necessary steps is the way to go for a healthy, successful relationship.

                                                                                                                  • Brytanika Gonzalez
                                                                                                                    Brytanika Gonzalez  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                    If your not willing to think like a man then don't watch the videos. No one's forcing you to. I watch because they have made my relationship stronger. Don't mistake knowledge for control.

                                                                                                                    • nofy bn
                                                                                                                      nofy bn  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                      Women do, GUYS DON'T. Guys should be learning about us. I am not going to think like them, they think wrong or not at all.

                                                                                                                      • Brytanika Gonzalez
                                                                                                                        Brytanika Gonzalez  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                        I love watching your videos Carlos. Your honest and give great advice. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us.

                                                                                                                        • Celeste Cummins
                                                                                                                          Celeste Cummins  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                          Do the physical traits (breasts and hips) matter to men when you're older and no longer want to have or can have kids? What do "older women" do to attract men (when you no longer have that sexy "card")?

                                                                                                                          • Ligia Harris
                                                                                                                            Ligia Harris  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                            The all thing is just ridiculous men want too much from women and don't give much in return. It is like walking in egg shell's dealing with guys nowdays. Don't do this don't say that so much for the strong species.

                                                                                                                            • Susie
                                                                                                                              Susie  Месяц назад

                                                                                                                              Ligia Harris True!

                                                                                                                              • Angel Hxze
                                                                                                                                Angel Hxze  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                Ligia Harris I'm a female and I believe the opposite. I think women typically want more with less to offer.

                                                                                                                                • nofy bn
                                                                                                                                  nofy bn  2 месяца назад


                                                                                                                                  • Alida ramos
                                                                                                                                    Alida ramos  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                    Its good but doesn’t work

                                                                                                                                    • Michele Herrmann
                                                                                                                                      Michele Herrmann  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                      I would love to see videos for women who are older and finding it hard to date after 40.

                                                                                                                                      • Brenda Davani
                                                                                                                                        Brenda Davani  2 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                        How does a 65 yr. old nice lady find a decent man?

                                                                                                                                        • sayounara1232
                                                                                                                                          sayounara1232  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                          Make a video on how a woman should flirt via text and real life because I suck at flirting lol

                                                                                                                                          • Nikki Eancheff
                                                                                                                                            Nikki Eancheff  3 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                            Yes! I don’t know how to flirt either and it feels very scary. A video about how to flirt would be so helpful 😊

                                                                                                                                            • Terri Brown
                                                                                                                                              Terri Brown  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                              I give up

                                                                                                                                              • nofy bn
                                                                                                                                                nofy bn  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                BS, boobs have nothing to do with nourish a baby, guys are not that smart. Right age? There is no right age. Again, guys are not that smart. I am a woman and I don't even know. Even a woman doesn't know until she gets pregnant. If we don't know, he doesn't. Guys don't know she is the one. Guys don't think that. Soft and dainty? Sexist. No woman is manly, so sexist. No, it is not her mom. Guys have become entitled and lazy and women have had to go to work. So a woman can't speak her mind? Sexist. Working on his empire has nothing to do with helping me. And we need to, to what? Leading? Sexist. IT IS A PARTNERSHIP! Yes, he starts it and starts the convo's but it isn't leading. She is nuts, I would never EVER go site unseen. I don't care how much I love someone. IT IS A PARTNERSHIP! TWO EQUAL PEOPLE. I don't perceive, it's fact. I don't agree, I do it anyway but I am not chilled. Clothes? Shallow. 75? wear once or twice? SO WRONG, we don't have that kind of money! I won't risk rejection.

                                                                                                                                                • Shakespeer!
                                                                                                                                                  Shakespeer!  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                  Ha. No.

                                                                                                                                                  • Erika Erika
                                                                                                                                                    Erika Erika  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                    Great video ...Please video of how to be more femenine ,

                                                                                                                                                    • Cleopatra TROPHY WIFE
                                                                                                                                                      Cleopatra TROPHY WIFE  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                      🤩✨🎊🌟♥️🤩✨🎊🌟♥️🎊🌟 Great video quality and exposure Carlos first of all 1) MEN FLOCK material send it 4:44mins be CUTE and SHY Be of some USE and TALENT 08:20 !!! 💥💪🤩♥️ Pure ICE and SPICE. You got all what it ends to be a trophy 🏆 wife ! Shut that voice in ur head which says ohh this is left oh that’s needed.

                                                                                                                                                      • Parsa Sheikh
                                                                                                                                                        Parsa Sheikh  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                        How to attract him again towards your self after 6 months of relationship he started losing interest in me he is not doing the same thing what he used to do before now he is just want his work work work I really want him back and do the same things what he was doing before please help me

                                                                                                                                                        • Dell Chica
                                                                                                                                                          Dell Chica  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                          Maureen Kam lol you should start ur own channel. Ure better than this guy!

                                                                                                                                                          • Maureen Kam
                                                                                                                                                            Maureen Kam  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                            @Parsa Sheikh Glad to hear that. It seems that he really loves you, but needs your understanding. Be gentle and patient if you really love him. Keep up the good effort! 😊

                                                                                                                                                            • Parsa Sheikh
                                                                                                                                                              Parsa Sheikh  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                              I'm so glad to have you really. I'm letting thing's go his anger his ignorance I'm not fighting on these things with him from last 2 day's so he is calling me in n off by himself. Asking me what I'm doing or he even asked me for meetup from last to last Thursday we didn't meet. He planned for Monday breakfast together by his own.

                                                                                                                                                              • Maureen Kam
                                                                                                                                                                Maureen Kam  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                                @Parsa Sheikh That is a good thing as he thinks you can be trusted to be left alone for a while so that he can concentrate on his career to build a future with you. You can text him naughty texts to get him excited for e.g., "I just got of the shower. It was hot and steamy. I felt so good that I could not control myself. Too bad, you were not there... " Sometimes, you take the initiative. Spice up your relationship. Don't demand. Entice him. Be mysterious at times. Make him think that you have your market. Be classy and not needy. Man is not a a good listener and the woman likes to be heard all the time. He also has his own work pressure. The time you both spend together should build up.and not tear down. As a woman, we must have the wisdom to manage a long term relationship. As both get comfortable with each other, the relationship will slip into the mundane things in the daily life.

                                                                                                                                                                • Parsa Sheikh
                                                                                                                                                                  Parsa Sheikh  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                                  Well it's not that he totally don't care about me he wants to work more after my entrance in his life he is getting more and more work from his office to do he said me that I am his good luck after my entrance he is getting more and more work what I have noticed one thing he is not missing the small things like going to office watching me from the balcony calling me he never ask me about my day he don't want to know it's your official matter what will I do I want him to call more often and want him to listen my things in never listen to me but he secretly love me I know that he does the those things

                                                                                                                                                                  • Adventure Your World
                                                                                                                                                                    Adventure Your World  4 месяца назад

                                                                                                                                                                    Great video! There is really no since to it!