Online love & infidelity. We're in the game, what are the rules? | Michelle Drouin | TEDxNaperville

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  • Published: 27 January 2016
  • Have you found love, sex, or intimacy online? Millions of us have-and we are constantly building and maintaining connections with friends, relationship partners, and lovers through the intricate paths of the world wide web. But how is this all affecting romantic relationships? And what rules should we have with our partners about online behaviors?
    A developmental psychologist, Dr. Michelle Drouin studies the effects of technology on literacy, communication, and relationships. She also studies the roles of technology in teaching and learning. Dr. Drouin’s research on sexting and mobile phone addiction has attracted international attention, and she regularly does interviews for television, radio, newspapers, and magazines. Her research has been cited in a number of prominent news sources including CNN, NPR, MSNBC, CBS News, The New York Times, Huffington Post, Reuters, Men’s Health, Parenting Magazine, and Psychology Today.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

Comments • 273

  • Ceevee Mydeen
    Ceevee Mydeen  Il y a 15 heures

    Virtual reality shopping.

    • Kevin Bolt
      Kevin Bolt  Il y a 3 jours

      What's this -itch talking bout.

      • VapeKing
        VapeKing  Il y a 3 jours

        My brother met his wife online but that was 20 years ago.

        • webeducation
          webeducation  Il y a 4 jours

          Hmmmm, all this seems to corrolate with the significant increase in narcissism. Especially the concert narcissist. A lot of women and men who lack empathy. We now live in a self help world where its all about me, me, me.

          • Archie Bunker
            Archie Bunker  Il y a 4 jours

            Anyone else hear the crickets every time she attempted to make a funny comment? I don't think I've seen such a quiet crowd in a TED talk before. Zzzzzzzz...

            • Muzzy337
              Muzzy337  Il y a 4 jours

              Social media instructs people that human beings are disposable.

              • Achilles94627
                Achilles94627  Il y a 7 jours

                "You have access to every single person you have ever been attracted to in your entire life". You don't really have 'access' to them, do you. That's the illusion.

                • -_
                  -_  Il y a 7 jours

                  The rules of old only become more applicable as time moves forward. Even though, people don’t think they do. The rule is, once you have intimate thoughts of someone in your mind or heart, you’ve cheated. It doesn’t matter what you do physically. There’s only two people who know this beyond any excuse or lie. That’s yourself and God. So, if you don’t care about God then there is only one person who knows, thats you. This is why so many people lie now a days.

                  • composerdoh
                    composerdoh  Il y a 13 jours

                    Well, the internet has magnified the issue, but it's hardly new. For over 200 years one could have an "affair" via written correspondence. All you needed was ability to read, write, paper, something to write with, and a post system. There are examples of "affairs" via letters from 50 years ago to 150 years ago where the two "lovers" never even met in person.

                    • craig merrell
                      craig merrell  Il y a 15 jours

                      What she speaking about this female hypergamy. Men as a general or more committed than women. Women are always looking for the bigger better deal. Women cheat as often or more often than men. The truth is women Bring me a 70 to 90% of all the Divorces MGTOW is the cure for female hypergamy And they were cheating ways

                      • David Pennington
                        David Pennington  Il y a 21 jour

                        She’s a little salty. Who is she? 🤣

                        • Bill Fallon
                          Bill Fallon  Il y a 22 jours

                          She doesn't know because she's keeping her options open.

                          • Bill Fallon
                            Bill Fallon  Il y a 22 jours

                            Some men would sleep with ALL of their FB friends. But what she failed to tell you is....Some women......ALREADY HAVE!

                            • Gil Gillis
                              Gil Gillis  Il y a 24 jours

                              This is a great talk. You shine light on deception, which is the root of infidelity.

                              • Loosely Gaming
                                Loosely Gaming  Il y a 24 jours

                                there's a difference between lying and not answering a question that hasn't been asked

                                • Eric Jacobson
                                  Eric Jacobson  Il y a 27 jours

                                  Women have chosen the lake, and I for one no longer casting a line... I have more values in myself than to play this kinda Crazy...Men approached women all our lives, now we are all labelled as creeps and subject to others' approval...Not worth the time to fish the world pond.

                                  • sargent sausages
                                    sargent sausages  Il y a 28 jours

                                    nice old jugs

                                    • Tiago A.
                                      Tiago A.  Il y a 29 jours

                                      The truth is. Socially, they want a sensitive gentleman. Privately, they an alpha that will bang her and leave her. If you go for the first role you'll get a relationship up to the point she gets bored and destroys you. If you pick the former you'll never be able to relax or allow yourself to feel intimacy. Ultimately, it's just a no win situation for men until we stop puting up with women's constant double standard and playing this unbalanced game where they have it so easy they can easily walk all over any of you or replace you in a second by the next sucker waiting to be selected

                                      • black john
                                        black john  Il y a 9 jours

                                        You haven't found the right woman yet sir. Don't lose hope just yet.

                                        • QuietGiant
                                          QuietGiant  Il y a mois

                                          People fail to realise that even though social media is a virtual world, there are actual people with actual feelings behind those screens. Eventually we will all forget how to be human.

                                          • Wise Arbee
                                            Wise Arbee  Il y a mois

                                            I m single and i have no back burners.

                                            • michael thompson
                                              michael thompson  Il y a mois

                                              If you don't know the rules then, most likely you've already broken a few!

                                              • MR.M.I.A.
                                                MR.M.I.A.  Il y a mois

                                                My ex got on FB when it first came out. Needles to say she found A lot of alternatives Lol

                                                • MR.M.I.A.
                                                  MR.M.I.A.  Il y a mois

                                                  Why put yourself out there if she can metoo you For merely speaking to her

                                                  • Sid MeHere
                                                    Sid MeHere  Il y a mois

                                                    My ex gf of three years re-connected with her ex bf from her past while she was still in a relationship with me. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that they are just friends, until she blamed me for not marrying her and moved on with this old pal of hers

                                                    • NewtralHuman
                                                      NewtralHuman  Il y a mois

                                                      More technical mumbo-jumbo to avoid describing the consequences of emotional and physical intimacy out side of *marriage*. It easily develops the worst of traits: dishonor, disloyalty, disloyalty, ungrateful, treachery.

                                                      • X Zaguer
                                                        X Zaguer  Il y a mois

                                                        Yea but a relationship is physical, not digital. The moment both members meet each other, the disguise disappears in a second, so I don't see the problem with that. Besides, Using social media as the only source of social interaction is unhealthy in the first place. We don't need to be afraid of technology, we need to become responsible users.

                                                        • Darius Mcneill
                                                          Darius Mcneill  Il y a mois

                                                          What agenda is this one pushing?

                                                          • black john
                                                            black john  Il y a 9 jours

                                                            Humanism

                                                            • rtheck
                                                              rtheck  Il y a mois

                                                              I applaud her for sure, shes pretty, smart, and confident. Especially in a world and at a time where it is more excepted that the guy is suppose to ask the girl out and not the other way around. That does take courage, good for you going after what you want!

                                                              • jab16399
                                                                jab16399  Il y a mois

                                                                The issue these days is that nothing is private so it can be more of a concern now.

                                                                • Jim Dempsey
                                                                  Jim Dempsey  Il y a mois

                                                                  Esther Perel - Mating in Captivity ... what she says about eroticism and intimacy being mutually opposed walks straight throught this subject.

                                                                  • Marten Dekker
                                                                    Marten Dekker  Il y a 16 jours

                                                                    Jim D : Yet, I, & some others find a very familiar, intimate partner...the most erotic. We're not all the same.

                                                                    • Marc Wareham
                                                                      Marc Wareham  Il y a mois

                                                                      Basically everyone’s in a open relationship whether they like it or not! This has become the sad truth of society today. There are no rules!

                                                                      • Δημήτρης Νταλαγιάννης

                                                                        Άμα δεν ξέρεις που πάνε τα τέσσερα...

                                                                        • Annemarie May
                                                                          Annemarie May  Il y a mois

                                                                          Platforms like FB could be so great for meeting people but you cannot trust anybody you meet online, unless you meet them in person and even then, the usual traditional cautions are necessary eg meet in a public place, tell others where you are going, with whom, when you expect to be back etc. The worst problem with on line dating is that it is too easy to manipulate your image to succeed ie present yourself as being better than you really are eg younger, richer etc. It is easy to touch up your photos and who's to know? That your photo they loved is of you twenty years ago. And so you get so far as meeting person and the other person discovers you are not what you claimed to be and this can make some people very angry. Enough to want to murder you. Some do just this. Especially if they waited a long time and invested a lot in meeting their dream human online. If you are going to meet people this way, it is best to be very honest with your pics etc to avoid deceiving others and also to be aware of others who cheat to win love or money through marriage etc, by posting dishonest, touched up photos etc. It may be a fast easy way to meet people but not a safe way. If I ever did it, I would expect to meet the person in the flesh shortly after meeting them online and deciding we might click together.

                                                                          • Muzzy337
                                                                            Muzzy337  Il y a mois

                                                                            Online dating is a giant used car lot where none of the vehicles have odometers.

                                                                            • Muzzy337
                                                                              Muzzy337  Il y a 4 jours

                                                                              @Johnny Danny It's true. Prove me wrong.

                                                                              • Johnny Danny
                                                                                Johnny Danny  Il y a 4 jours

                                                                                Muzzy337 😫😂

                                                                                • Zumba Flower
                                                                                  Zumba Flower  Il y a mois

                                                                                  Curse social media 🙂

                                                                                  • Alexis Bostantzoglou
                                                                                    Alexis Bostantzoglou  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                    depressing

                                                                                    • Jessica Postopoly
                                                                                      Jessica Postopoly  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                      Have never had a 'backburner relationship' in my life but have been met with the assumption that I do more than once. Probably because the people assuming had them going on themselves. One of my exes went out with a chick he had known for over 10 years right after he broke up with me (Spoiler: It didn't work out... and despite me being very clear that I'm over him he still messages me occasionally to tell me he still loves me and hasn't been able to find anyone like me since...5 years later. Well dude, not my issue). Is that like the 'thing' people do now? There is literally nobody I'm friends with that I would ever date. My social circle is small and the friends I have I've known for more than long enough to figure out if I like them that way. Once I decide I want to be with someone I don't think about other 'options'. I try to make it work with them and if it doesn't then it could be because of a number of reasons, but me being preoccupied with 'backburner relationships' isn't one of them. I just don't understand people who do this. Yeah your current relationship may not work out and then you need to go through the process of getting over it and then looking again (if you choose to do so) but like...That's life. Grow up. One of these days constantly wanting to explore and keep your options open is going to backfire. When you have something great right in front of you but you ruin things because you are never satisfied.

                                                                                      • Silver Strings
                                                                                        Silver Strings  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                        I met my wife online and, we've been together almost 20 years. Nevertheless, I found myself looking up Michelle because I found her to be very attractive. I tried to find pictures of her legs and, managed to find a very pretty picture of hers on Facebook. I spent the entire video fantasizing about her and, wishing we could share intimate conversations together. No, I don't want to meet her. I just want to be with her in my dreams and imagination. I am very hopeful she reads what I just said.

                                                                                        • helen barrios
                                                                                          helen barrios  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                          😻

                                                                                          • debo d
                                                                                            debo d  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                            Sheeez welcome to every males reality

                                                                                            • A Plicqu
                                                                                              A Plicqu  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                              Stats show you find out 7% about a person with text only. Ninety three percent is gleaned by longtime, personal contact. It takes hours of investment ( about 60) to create a solid "friendship". Friendship and dating relationships are based on spontaneity, humor, shared interests. NONE of that matters in an online relationship. The relationship is never tested in real life. These kinds of relationships can last for months and years BECAUSE they are never tested. Look for real life friends close to home who can pick you up if your car breaks down, give you a shoulder to cry on when your pet dies, see a film with you, have a walk and a talk, go bike riding or shopping together. Invest time with a person who can give you a satisfying, supportive, vibrant relationship, instead of words in a vacuum. It will work out better and the chance of being catfished is minimized. You only have to watch "catfish" to find out how many people fake profiles and lie about their lives to keep a word-support relationship going because of whatever unhappy issues plague them. It's not good to be used.

                                                                                              • bob o
                                                                                                bob o  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                                No social media .. no friends list .. non-relationship mgtow money saved equals Beneteau

                                                                                                • bob o
                                                                                                  bob o  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                                  No "social media" ..no "friends list" ..non-relationship money saved pays for new Beneteau

                                                                                                  • heather townley
                                                                                                    heather townley  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                                    fakebook.......

                                                                                                    • R3V3NG3
                                                                                                      R3V3NG3  Il y a 3 mois

                                                                                                      I found love from internet, we are both introverts, abused as kids before and we related to each other. Without internet i would have never met him. We met in discord community server. We have so much love for each other.

                                                                                                      • _Sadlex_
                                                                                                        _Sadlex_  Il y a 3 mois

                                                                                                        I tried online dating for a while. It is the same as real life dating: hopeless.

                                                                                                        • Kasitti1
                                                                                                          Kasitti1  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                                          i tried too and realised its the same as real life. Didn't i will be deeply in love.

                                                                                                          • DJ-TRAXX
                                                                                                            DJ-TRAXX  Il y a 3 mois

                                                                                                            Very, very interesting and very, very relative.

                                                                                                            • John Doe
                                                                                                              John Doe  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                              maybe it's time to cast aside the fidelity concept...if it's clearly against our desires...

                                                                                                              • Trevor V
                                                                                                                Trevor V  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                Not "our" but against many. The ones who are truly monogamous like myself are pretty much better dead.

                                                                                                                • Nyet Nine
                                                                                                                  Nyet Nine  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                  Women have WAY more than 4 on the "back burner" and they're more guilty of this behavior than men. It breaks down like this: If they admit to 4 than it's probably 8 if they admit to 8 then it's probably 16 if they admit to 16 then it's probably 30 or more.

                                                                                                                  • Nyet Nine
                                                                                                                    Nyet Nine  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                    Social media is societal cancer. I don't use social media and my phone doesn't have a lock code. I refuse to date anybody who doesn't do the same.

                                                                                                                    • arachnipope
                                                                                                                      arachnipope  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                      Nyet Nine Cancer is a good word for social media.

                                                                                                                      • Martin Mbonu
                                                                                                                        Martin Mbonu  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                        Everyone have just refused to admit that it's just natural for human beings to be attracted to others. We can set up as many rules as possible, blame the internet all we want, it's still true. If people get the chance, they will desire and be desired by others.

                                                                                                                        • Josh Jourdan
                                                                                                                          Josh Jourdan  Il y a 25 jours

                                                                                                                          Particularly men, as her research showed. It’s just propagation of the species.

                                                                                                                          • Dan
                                                                                                                            Dan  Il y a mois

                                                                                                                            Yup your wife gonna cheat

                                                                                                                            • Achilleas Philippides
                                                                                                                              Achilleas Philippides  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                              Thats why women lie...

                                                                                                                              • Snowfall
                                                                                                                                Snowfall  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                Now that talk was an eye opener. Thanks a lot!

                                                                                                                                • Karima
                                                                                                                                  Karima  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                  A very interesting and needed topic, I hope this will be discussed more often also on other media platforms and even in education. Thanks you did great!

                                                                                                                                  • killa haze
                                                                                                                                    killa haze  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                    Thia should be selling mating alternatives. Lmfao

                                                                                                                                    • FacingFear29 Doeyou
                                                                                                                                      FacingFear29 Doeyou  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                      Can’t believe I’m watching this...

                                                                                                                                      • june brogan
                                                                                                                                        june brogan  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                        As a relationship counsellor I am torn between thinking that each couple has to make their own rules. But perhaps someone needs to create a list of things to discuss.

                                                                                                                                        • Patricia Bartosik
                                                                                                                                          Patricia Bartosik  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                          I deactivated my FB page because it was too complicated and time consuming for me. I'm at greater peace now.

                                                                                                                                          • black john
                                                                                                                                            black john  Il y a 9 jours

                                                                                                                                            I did in 2017. Best move of my adulthood.

                                                                                                                                            • Michelle and Toni Dawson
                                                                                                                                              Michelle and Toni Dawson  Il y a 10 jours

                                                                                                                                              DannyDaDuffyDucking Daffer yep I am 😆 social media like fb doesn’t make sense to me lmao 💕🌈🇦🇺🦋x

                                                                                                                                              • DannyDaDuffyDucking Daffer
                                                                                                                                                DannyDaDuffyDucking Daffer  Il y a 10 jours

                                                                                                                                                😆can't handle social media?😂😂 Old

                                                                                                                                                • Michelle and Toni Dawson
                                                                                                                                                  Michelle and Toni Dawson  Il y a 14 jours

                                                                                                                                                  Patricia Bartosik I never had fb it’s to complicated for me lol 💕🌈🇦🇺🦋x

                                                                                                                                                  • TheJessmess24
                                                                                                                                                    TheJessmess24  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                                    This is a super interesting topic to me. One thing she doesn't mention is how this issue is combined with addiction to social media and texting. The illusion of intimacy and emotional support is not worth it. "On the side" sexting or intimate texting relationships can be a cowardly cop out to the real work needed in a relationship. Your partner will feel it. Be there for your boo!

                                                                                                                                                    • Nothing Here
                                                                                                                                                      Nothing Here  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                                      For my generation, social media is the best way to find someone you like, not just a classmate that you happen to know a little about, and with today’s judgment and high standards, it’s safer to stay behind a screen where we can speak our minds and express ourselves, reaching millions of others. We can get to know our world, not just our town or community, find new and interesting things we wouldn’t find sitting around, only being able to talk to those around us, who have the same view because of our limited vision. Social media is a curse and a blessing, and soon, online relationships will be normal and expected, and human interaction can definitely change, for better or for worse. What used to be normal, like meeting people in person, isn’t always the best way to go, especially in our ever-changing world.

                                                                                                                                                      • Silvia Hernandez
                                                                                                                                                        Silvia Hernandez  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                                        I feel and think when you meet/know organicly meaning casually at the mall, store, restaurant and face to face ask for their names more emotions/investment its done probably more valued than someone met online cus u see what you see the person how it really is not the persona/image in a profile... i met this guy whos friends in fb are pretty much that a list of options or possibilities available for him... how do we want to be viewed, i dont think virtual intimacy its genuine nit all people are honest

                                                                                                                                                        • D H
                                                                                                                                                          D H  Il y a 4 mois

                                                                                                                                                          Ted Talks took a nosedive about a month after inception. Tiny audience.

                                                                                                                                                          • victor arregnelle
                                                                                                                                                            victor arregnelle  Il y a 5 mois

                                                                                                                                                            Solution: just find someone that has no cell phone, no computer, has no friends, doesn't go out, and chain them to the house. Or you can be realistic and know that romance is a fairly new idea of love, it cannot be perfect, will never have a solution, chances are you will fail, and is idiotic. Guess just enjoy romance for what it is, and make relationships a solid commitment about the children or opportunity. Meh.

                                                                                                                                                            • --
                                                                                                                                                              --  Il y a 5 mois

                                                                                                                                                              Does she want to deliver a speech or meet up for cocktails?!

                                                                                                                                                              • KJ R
                                                                                                                                                                KJ R  Il y a mois

                                                                                                                                                                lol seems like it being her marriage is just a game! Her last closing statement.

                                                                                                                                                                • RushKa
                                                                                                                                                                  RushKa  Il y a 5 mois

                                                                                                                                                                  Michelle Drouin marries "famous hockey player..." Jonathon Drouin currently in the NHL. Are they related in any way?

                                                                                                                                                                  • MrPoe22
                                                                                                                                                                    MrPoe22  Il y a 5 mois

                                                                                                                                                                    I predict this woman will be divorced within 5 years.

                                                                                                                                                                    • MrPoe22
                                                                                                                                                                      MrPoe22  Il y a 5 mois

                                                                                                                                                                      Social media, dating sites and feminism have destroyed this country. Committed Relationships and families are rapidly going extinct. I suppose this is considered progress. What a fuckimg joke!!

                                                                                                                                                                      • RepsUp100
                                                                                                                                                                        RepsUp100  Il y a 6 mois

                                                                                                                                                                        Amazing talk doctor, thank you.

                                                                                                                                                                        • Justin Boger
                                                                                                                                                                          Justin Boger  Il y a 6 mois

                                                                                                                                                                          Great talk. I agree so much with the things she said. online dating has been such a good thing and a bad thing. Easier to get dates but much easier to not commit to anything also.

                                                                                                                                                                          • Janine Robinson
                                                                                                                                                                            Janine Robinson  Il y a 5 mois

                                                                                                                                                                            Amazing talk. There’s no definite evidence. You’re faced with two alternatives: seek out the facts, or to turn a blind eye. Selecting the first choice, although often suitable in the short term, is incredibly damaging for you personally, not only in the long run too. Seeking the truth out isn’t simple either - as we can see technology has made infidelity much easier to conceal than in the past, however it also provides opportunities for revealing getting the evidence needed to establish them & affairs. I hate cheaters, my fiance never gave me a reason to be suspicious until i found him and her colleague at a romantic restaurant. He told me it was work stuff but something wasn’t right. i was worried until i was introduced to an ethic hacker who hacked his device so i can find out the truth. He made it possible to track his movement and location. he hacked his facebook, aol email. Lets say i had no doubt he was cheating... If in need of help to access spouse phone, emails, SMS or Snapchat. email [email protected] Let him know I recommended him.

                                                                                                                                                                            • Chris M.R. Santos
                                                                                                                                                                              Chris M.R. Santos  Il y a 6 mois

                                                                                                                                                                              im not a man ...now im an endless wishing list to be fullfilled....NO WAY ! MGTOWN !!

                                                                                                                                                                              • VidiSensiVici
                                                                                                                                                                                VidiSensiVici  Il y a 6 mois

                                                                                                                                                                                We need to define the words, love and lust. Most people attract to each other because of having like kind energy, chemistry, and it is fun to be with them. And if true love exists, then we wish loyalty would be there, the ability to stay through All struggles and challenges of life. What is love? Love is giving or loving without expecting anything in return, an unconditional love to speak off. In short, it is harder to find true love. Perhaps, we need a Divine intervention, or the so-called Destiny. By the way, not all of us are destined to be parents. Therefore, it is fun to date, to socialize to see what life has for us in the journey.

                                                                                                                                                                                • Kelleymobiledetail com
                                                                                                                                                                                  Kelleymobiledetail com  Il y a 6 mois

                                                                                                                                                                                  I put my feelings on the line and she went for a kid 10 yr younger than her and left me

                                                                                                                                                                                  • OnwardSoldier
                                                                                                                                                                                    OnwardSoldier  Il y a 6 mois

                                                                                                                                                                                    I had her for Psychology in my college class last year. She was great.

                                                                                                                                                                                    • sc4400
                                                                                                                                                                                      sc4400  Il y a 7 mois

                                                                                                                                                                                      It's all about honor and dignity. Without those qualities, you're just a dog in heat. I'm on social media. I have no "back burners". I have people in my life who are looking at me for guidance. How am I going to expect good from my grand sons if I'm a dog?

                                                                                                                                                                                      • Darius Mcneill
                                                                                                                                                                                        Darius Mcneill  Il y a 14 jours

                                                                                                                                                                                        Exactly

                                                                                                                                                                                        • Zumba Flower
                                                                                                                                                                                          Zumba Flower  Il y a mois

                                                                                                                                                                                          Dignity 👍🏻

                                                                                                                                                                                          • D'Anna C
                                                                                                                                                                                            D'Anna C  Il y a 3 mois

                                                                                                                                                                                            sc4400 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

                                                                                                                                                                                            • Skating Mummy Emily-Kate Ice Skating

                                                                                                                                                                                              My husband who had been my rock had an online affair. They both talked about their individual partners families etc. it’s smashed my world apart. It’s the most horrendous feeling seeing your life discussed. Lied about and what not. It’s a nightmare

                                                                                                                                                                                              • Behavior & Handwriting Reveal the Truth

                                                                                                                                                                                                @D'Anna C Yes, if they will do it WITH you, then they will do it TO you. I live and die by that one little nugget in the Skills For Life bag.

                                                                                                                                                                                                • breguet101
                                                                                                                                                                                                  breguet101  Il y a 2 mois

                                                                                                                                                                                                  What did you do ? Did you stay, or did you leave ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  • D'Anna C
                                                                                                                                                                                                    D'Anna C  Il y a 3 mois

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Skating Mummy Emily-Kate Ice Skating I hope you read this. Know that there are THOUSANDS of us that reject and push those kinds of people away. We don't want to have you betrayed, lied about, and listen to your partner twist and complain about you, your kids, your life. We shut it down and tell them to get therapy with you. We take YOUR side and help them to see THEIR part and to take ownership for their stuff, not look for a confidant who, "understands them". It's betrayal. Period. We're out here fighting for you, your marriage or partnership and we believe karma is a vicious equilibrator that should be respected and reminded of when they approach. We know that if they do it to you, they will 100% do it to ANYONE. That's who THEY ARE to the core, not you. May you be healed of your betrayal and find the path to love again. 🙏