Final Fantasy VII Remake Battle System Explained at E3 2019

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  • Published: 13 June 2019
  • We break down the new real-time combat mechanics of the FFVII remake.

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Comments • 122

  • ROX NOX
    ROX NOX  3 weeks back

    The original battle system was perfect. No need to change!

    • KebabRemover
      KebabRemover  3 weeks back

      Why is cross slash available so early on? There should only be Braver so early on.

      • pretend amnesia
        pretend amnesia  1 months back

        I dont like it. Wish it was more like the original.

        • treos2
          treos2  2 months back

          people wanted a FFVII remake... what they got is a new game based on FFVII with the old ATB combat system ripped out and combined with FFXV's combat system to form a new frankenstein hybrid combat system...


          yeah, that's SO much better. >.>

          to bad for square, i still own the original game on ps1 discs! so...won't be getting my money. :P

          • wiseguy 26
            wiseguy 26  4 weeks back

            @treos2 I'll take 13 over that trash watered down garbage that was jpop boyband simulator XV anyday. At least 13 felt like a full game while 15 was just trash to the point they had to change some of its story and cutscenes. And it had plot holes in the form of paid dlc. And don't get me started on the empty open world and hold O to win combat. 13 lives on in 7 remake, deal with it.😆

          • treos2
            treos2  4 weeks back

            @wiseguy 26 i prefer to ignore hallway simulator's existence when i can and instead focus on actual good games.

          • wiseguy 26
            wiseguy 26  4 weeks back

            Forgot 13's atb segments and stagger system.

        • jaster mereel
          jaster mereel  2 months back

          RPG SHOULD BE TURN BASED PERIOD ALL CAPS

        • Joey Dp
          Joey Dp  2 months back

          "Kind of artistic feel"

          yes... that's what you say about a game that looks like a cutsceene nonstop

          • SHADOWfox99
            SHADOWfox99  3 months back

            It looks like a combination of ff12 and kingdom hearts battle systems with a little bit of crisis core mixed in.

            • Retro True
              Retro True  4 months back

              I was gonna preorder...after this i doubt it though. Battle system looks kinda shit. The earlier ff games were by far my favorites ever and i still own a ps1 besides my ps4 in order to play these in their original glory. I detest the later ffs so... maybe I'll just let this one go by. Seems like a ff7 reskin on the current bad ff mechanics.

            • Bezerk-z
              Bezerk-z  4 months back

              Where did you get that T-Shirt?? 😬

              • Robert Gray
                Robert Gray  4 months back

                I think there was going to be fallout regardless of the combat system they implemented. I prefer the turn based approach; but at no point did I think SquareE would use that for the remake.

                • Erik Evans
                  Erik Evans  4 months back

                  Trash way to ruin a classic game square enix

                  • Raggedy Exynos
                    Raggedy Exynos  4 months back

                    Cant wait for the boring ass hour-long boss fights

                    • Loulou the holocaust
                      Loulou the holocaust  4 months back

                      its probably a hybrid of XIII and type 0, character switching and uniqueness of playstyle from 1 another is from type 0, stagering, comanding party members, long boss battles and battle placings looked like in XIII, but squre realy mixed is well, realy looking forward to play this,, my favorite game of all time,,

                      • lostn65
                        lostn65  4 months back

                        I prefer turn based combat myself, but i don't see a point of putting in an ATB menu system in a real time action game. That system is for turn based games where you control multiple characters. If you're only controlling one character at a time, why kill the pace of the combat by putting menus in? The combat should flow quickly, and you should map attacks or abilities to shortcut buttons like in a hack n slasher. It's just not necessary to have menus unless it's turn based when the game is paused. If you're controlling a single character, you should be able to perform whatever action you need without stopping to select it. All actions should be mapped to buttons on the controller.

                        Making it a hybrid system with ATB sounds more like an olive branch offered to appease critics of the new action combat than a necessary addition to enhance the battle system.

                        • Rendell Draw
                          Rendell Draw  4 months back

                          I guess you haven't heard of Vagrant Story, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate?

                          You also seemed to have skipped a part if the video -- you can actually map commands of your party members to certain button combinations (if I'm mistaken, L1 + the face buttons for the first member and R2 for the other.

                          Also, the action-y, real-time part is just there for us to have something else to do instead of just sitting and staring at the ATB gauges while we wait for it to fill up.
                          Your party members will never execute a command on their own, you're still the one who decides what they do with their ATB charges, not by "Gambits".
                          Issuing commands to party members seems much more significant than running around and dodging or hack-and-slashing.

                          The Real-Time with Pause element similar to those games I mentioned above never really made me feel like it disrupts the action's flow for those types if games.

                      • Greenman422
                        Greenman422  4 months back

                        stop saying kind of kind of kind of

                        • Zephrym85
                          Zephrym85  4 months back

                          Game looks great, but still very skeptical about the combat system....

                          • Rendell Draw
                            Rendell Draw  4 months back

                            It doesn't sound that bad to me though -- the acton-y part seems to be some sort of filler --- we could get to do something else instead of just sitting and staring, waiting for the ATB gauge to fill up.
                            The emphasis on issuing commands to your party via the ATB system is still present.

                            You could wait for the PC version though -- someone will likely create a mod that would disable the minor attacks of both your party and the enemies'. This way, combat will be generally ATB-based....

                        • cavedens
                          cavedens  4 months back

                          This seems very Parasite Eve - which I lov

                          • houchi69
                            houchi69  4 months back

                            So Cloud's hair is now more natural, but that's a letdown for you?

                            • joe smith
                              joe smith  4 months back

                              ugh action combat thank you for ruining a sure thing.

                            • Tyler Meadows
                              Tyler Meadows  4 months back

                              Complaining about Cloud's hair not staying as spikey as it looks traditionally during intense fight scenes.

                              K bro. I think there's more important things dude.

                              • Silk Worm
                                Silk Worm  4 months back

                                @Tyler Meadows For humanoid characters things like hair and weapons are important for achieving a good silhouette. I think the hair is more important than the sword even. It's a small complaint but the game isn't out yet and this is a gripe I've had with a few games recently. Making things look dull in order to be more "natural" looking.

                              • Tyler Meadows
                                Tyler Meadows  4 months back

                                @houchi69 I don't know if I lost respect for the channel, but at some point you have to be reasonable about critiquing things, or at least talk about things more accurate to what people care about.

                                I think most people really don't care if Cloud's hair flows like the wind, or stands up straight.

                              • houchi69
                                houchi69  4 months back

                                Seriously. I just lost some respect for this channel.

                            • MrDiscomafia
                              MrDiscomafia  4 months back

                              PlayStation exclusive...

                              • Cypherous
                                Cypherous  4 months back

                                But this first game is only like 10% of the whole game so the actual game should be completed some time in 2053

                                • Cypherous
                                  Cypherous  4 months back

                                  @Very normal guy sure, bit that still leaves 90% of the game for them to sell you piece by piece

                                • Very normal guy
                                  Very normal guy  4 months back

                                  10% of play-time, but almost like 30% of pure content though. Around 30% of texts in the whole original are in Midgar, outside of this big town you spent the most of your time walk around the map and stuck in random encounter fest or just being clueless just where the hell you should go to continue the story.

                                • Daniel Escovedo
                                  Daniel Escovedo  4 months back

                                  Most likely lol!

                              • Rizer X
                                Rizer X  4 months back

                                Game looks AMAZING. I'm a bit miffed it takes FFXV's style but I'll over look it because I love this story and these characters... and they look even more badass than before. We need a Final Fantasy VI remake like this... then I can die happy.

                                • davehead4real
                                  davehead4real  4 months back

                                  dude, I totally agree! FF6 and FF7 were my favorite games as a kid. They totally need to do a remake of FF6, then I can die happy as well! lol

                                • Rendell Draw
                                  Rendell Draw  4 months back

                                  It seems to me that the FFXV-ish style is just there for us to have something else to do other than just sitting and staring at the ATB gauge while it fills up.

                              • john Appleseed
                                john Appleseed  4 months back

                                I was dreading the fact it's not turn based . But I played completely through final fantasy 15 and actually enjoyed it , so that kind of popped my cherry for action RPGS . Although I still prefer the turn based battle system I think I could enjoy this version as long as they do a good job of incorporating the 'supoort' and majir magic materia like Ultima and Meteor ... I want to beable to use all the original magic materia with ease .

                                • Reznor
                                  Reznor  4 months back

                                  Gameplay looks like dogshit. They ruined a masterpiece I’ll stick with the original

                                • zZiL341yRj736
                                  zZiL341yRj736  4 months back

                                  If Nomura is directing it's GONNA be trash like that boring piece of shit Kingdom Hearts 3.

                                  • Blackwolf100173 Gamer
                                    Blackwolf100173 Gamer  4 months back

                                    So basically y’all don’t like how the gameplay is....I mean I don’t mind it final Fantasy 15 was good

                                    • wiseguy 26
                                      wiseguy 26  4 weeks back

                                      15 was trash in terms of combat and challenge. I see more 15, 13 and crisis core considering the ATB segments and stagger system returns.

                                  • stephen schneider
                                    stephen schneider  4 months back

                                    This is FF15 with FF7 art style. No thank you. Thanks for taking a giant dump on my hype. I will not be buying this trash, this is an action game not the RPG we wanted.

                                    • Silk Worm
                                      Silk Worm  4 months back

                                      Isn't that the other way round? 7 with 15's aesthetic? I don't mind that at all. The setting design is just so strong in 7.

                                    • trips487
                                      trips487  4 months back

                                      Stop saying WE as it's what the majority of people wanted. This is your opinion therefore you should say "I wanted" or something similar to that. Not everyone wants that out dated turn base shit again. I enjoyed those systems back then and still do in some form like persona 5 and dragon quest etc. However, that for the most part is an outdated system that was not intended to be in the remake of the game. This game still has ATB but it's more action oriented now which was made clear since day 1 of the announcement. If you want your out dated shit again go back and play the original. There's even a mod that makes the graphics up to date if you want that. Stop shitting on the remake though and calling it trash just bc you're an ignorant fool that doesn't like the game mechanics. Times have changed most people want faster combat modes now and not the sluggish old turn based rpg style. That's why they implement all those cheats in the remastered version of the games so you can skip that slow pace jargon. FYI the gameplay here is nothing like FFXV either. Just bc it's more action orientated does not mean it's a reskin of FFXV. Totally different developers but you're an ignorant ass that can't get over your nostalgia shit.

                                    • [ D3DNS1D3 ]
                                      [ D3DNS1D3 ]  4 months back

                                      @stephen schneider 9,5,6,2,1,7,4,3,8

                                    • Wonder Bread
                                      Wonder Bread  4 months back

                                      Agreed.

                                    • stephen schneider
                                      stephen schneider  4 months back

                                      @[ D3DNS1D3 ] I'm playing 8 again right now.

                                  • Mik-FN
                                    Mik-FN  4 months back

                                    Would be dope if we got a dlc for Tifa where she wears 2B's outfit from Nier Automata.....

                                    • tetsuo strider
                                      tetsuo strider  4 months back

                                      ff15 was utter trash so i know 100% i will never get this big pile of dog shit.

                                      • Mr.Negitive
                                        Mr.Negitive  4 months back

                                        Press by press combat is already a step up from XV

                                        • Mr.Negitive
                                          Mr.Negitive  1 months back

                                          @Regal Pixel King Yes some guy went on a 6 six paragraph rant on how the game was good when I said the same thing :)

                                        • Regal Pixel King
                                          Regal Pixel King  1 months back

                                          FF15 was just "Hold O to Win: The Game." It's not all that hard to improve a broken system.

                                        • chaosdream1
                                          chaosdream1  4 months back

                                          lol

                                      • Wonder Bread
                                        Wonder Bread  4 months back

                                        It's Final Fantasy 15 in a FF7 Skin.

                                        • trips487
                                          trips487  4 months back

                                          No no it's not idiot.

                                      • Theory Vue
                                        Theory Vue  4 months back

                                        This game will be delayed until 2049

                                        • ForceOfWizardry
                                          ForceOfWizardry  4 months back

                                          They could have saved a year or two on development time if they just made the fucking battle system turn based. I feel like a lot of content will be cut out from the original game. Notice how we did not even get to see trailer of a summon spell.

                                          • Silk Worm
                                            Silk Worm  4 months back

                                            I hate menu games. Glad they're updating it.

                                          • [ D3DNS1D3 ]
                                            [ D3DNS1D3 ]  4 months back

                                            I hate this style combat so much. Glad I'm not the only one.

                                          • Daruma King
                                            Daruma King  4 months back

                                            They do include Summon.
                                            You see it at the end of the trailer.
                                            The pre-order stuff showed Summon Materia dlc.

                                        • Johnathan Archer
                                          Johnathan Archer  4 months back

                                          Now I see why it took so long wow

                                          • Silk Worm
                                            Silk Worm  4 months back

                                            @zZiL341yRj736 This already has a story. KH3 was all about shoehorning fucking frozen into a final fantasy game somehow.

                                          • Unwanted Nightmares
                                            Unwanted Nightmares  4 months back

                                            @zZiL341yRj736 well different development team so...

                                          • Cypherous
                                            Cypherous  4 months back

                                            And you can also see why it's going to take about a decade for them to actually release the rest of the game

                                          • zZiL341yRj736
                                            zZiL341yRj736  4 months back

                                            Johnathan Archer Gonna be trash like Kingdom Hearts 3.

                                        • Indra Chaudhari
                                          Indra Chaudhari  4 months back

                                          this is like its prequel crisis core's mechanic in psp..

                                          • FenixD
                                            FenixD  4 months back

                                            It is, but I'm really not sure I like it. I loved the original and crisis core. I just hope that they do the story effectively and don't dumb it down like the combat. I guess I was hoping more so for a reskin, better animations and cinematics. My concern is that the action based combat will have also changed lots of other aspects like material /magic and summons.

                                        • jarvis apex
                                          jarvis apex  4 months back

                                          It looks great..... kinda wish it was turn based though

                                          • Ryuji
                                            Ryuji  4 months back

                                            Where did you get that Shinra shirt? I love it!

                                            • Sid Essel
                                              Sid Essel  4 months back

                                              Nothing Final about these Fantasies ;-)

                                              • Billy RAMEAU
                                                Billy RAMEAU  4 months back

                                                All these reports on the demo are nice, but not everybody can go halfway around the globe to try it, so does anybody know for sure (or could ask some people at E3) if the demo will be made public for others to enjoy it?

                                                • Feänor Elèssar
                                                  Feänor Elèssar  4 months back

                                                  @Billy RAMEAU I understand your sadness I'm on edge just to hear an announcement of a demo around the game but it has been silent so hopefully there will be a Demo.

                                                • Billy RAMEAU
                                                  Billy RAMEAU  4 months back

                                                  I was expecting video games related news channel/site to ask about this, but it's kind of weird that Engadget, IGN, Gamestop, PlayStation Access, etc none of them checked about that.
                                                  And of course when sending an email directly to SE support, the answer is that there is no answer. Very disappointed 😥

                                                • Feänor Elèssar
                                                  Feänor Elèssar  4 months back

                                                  @Billy RAMEAU I felt the same sure fans who attended E3 may not have doubt in the game, They played the game let the whole public play this game to see if each individual will like it themselves.

                                                • Billy RAMEAU
                                                  Billy RAMEAU  4 months back

                                                  I don't believe it would be exclusive to PS+. That would make the entire fan community very upset.
                                                  I'm kind of surprised nobody asked SE people at E3 about this actually.

                                                • Feänor Elèssar
                                                  Feänor Elèssar  4 months back

                                                  @C N wasn't that the source of that rumor fake due to the leaker faking as a Square Enid employee we shall see indeed.

                                              • jimmykusa
                                                jimmykusa  4 months back

                                                segue is pronounced "segway"

                                                • Zack Anderson
                                                  Zack Anderson  4 months back

                                                  Correction you could switch characters in 15. It was a skill you had to unlock

                                                  • Devon Montoya
                                                    Devon Montoya  4 months back

                                                    Zack Anderson it was unfinished

                                                    And still is

                                                  • Zack Anderson
                                                    Zack Anderson  4 months back

                                                    @The Eyesight Dim its 2019 a lot of games have added content. I like that this is a thing. Other people call it "unfinished" I say its ever expanding

                                                  • The Eyesight Dim
                                                    The Eyesight Dim  4 months back

                                                    That wasn't always in the game though, it certainly wasn't in the base game that I played at launch.

                                                • Nikorasu081
                                                  Nikorasu081  4 months back

                                                  I don't understand why they didn't want any one to film the demo. 90% of the users who are going to play this remake played and beat the original on PS1, they already know what is going to happen. Name any other demo at E3 that didn't allow filming, please name it.

                                                  • tcrpgfan
                                                    tcrpgfan  4 months back

                                                    Outer Worlds.

                                                  • Astraldymensions
                                                    Astraldymensions  4 months back

                                                    Marvel's Avengers

                                                  • TenSeiKenZX -
                                                    TenSeiKenZX -  4 months back

                                                    I think it's more so because if you filmed the demo which is subjected to possible change, then people might get the false impression of the game in its current state and future state.

                                                  • Benkei's Random Thoughts
                                                    Benkei's Random Thoughts  4 months back

                                                    Cyberpunk 2077

                                                • subjectbigy
                                                  subjectbigy  4 months back

                                                  The whole game is gonna be on 2 discs or is gonna be episodic like they say they were gonna do

                                                  • Horace Gentleman
                                                    Horace Gentleman  4 months back

                                                    @C N That's stupid and they can't read apparently.

                                                  • C N
                                                    C N  4 months back

                                                    @Horace Gentleman They really do need to clarify that. A lot of people seem to think Midgar is disc 1 and somehow the rest of the game is on disc 2.

                                                  • Horace Gentleman
                                                    Horace Gentleman  4 months back

                                                    Episodic...first episode is 2 discs.

                                                • Thomas Urgento
                                                  Thomas Urgento  4 months back

                                                  can you make a separate channel for gaming, so that I don't have to keep hiding these stupid gaming videos.

                                                  • Alvin Lee
                                                    Alvin Lee  4 months back

                                                    Don't kill off the flower girl!

                                                    • trips487
                                                      trips487  4 months back

                                                      Then it won't be ffvii. That's how the game was made and how it should change. They shouldn't change any of the original story just bc it's a remake. That will take away the whole point of FFVII.

                                                  • RAMBOLOGY
                                                    RAMBOLOGY  4 months back

                                                    Just played the demo. If it weren't for the tactical slowdown system, switching and juggling between members can get out of hand but so far I enjoyed what I played

                                                  • Christopher Conkright
                                                    Christopher Conkright  4 months back

                                                    I don’t know I liked having all my team out fighting together. Will they have all the quests etc out side the game. You could dig in to them it was fun