Who Will Survive the Group of Death? | Worlds 2019 Predictions

  • Published: 09 October 2019
  • The 16 teams are decided all that's left is navigating through the group stage predictions for #Worlds2019

    Mark and Eric give their picks for who will advance to quarterfinals from each group

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  • JJ Deng
    JJ Deng  19 hours back

    After watching two days of worlds, I don't think this prediction is accurate in the slightest bit. I think you guys are letting your own biases and subjectivity ruining this video. As much work as you guys put into this video, when it comes down to predictions, be more like Riot shout casters,
    objectivity is key.

    First all, you guys are overhyping the LCK teams and underrating the LPL teams. The LPL as a region asserted dominances and won EVERY single international tournament last year, this doesn't happen without reason. The returning three teams from LPL consist of defending world champion IG, and Worlds veteran RNG and LPL's regular season #1 seed FPX. IG is currently 2-0 and RNG is 1-1 in the group of death. FPX has raw talent, yet it's their first worlds, inexperience and player mentality are much more important factors during worlds than statistics, and FPX just lost to J Team, proving my point, showing the volatility of Funplus Phoenix, matter of fact I think in terms of international performances, I'd put FPX at the very bottom of LPL.

    Secondly, when it comes down to LCK, SKT is an all-around great team and a solid tournament favor unquestionably, yet DWG and GRF are two new teams loaded with talent, but like I said. Like FPX, they are volatile as hell. Which is reflecting in their record rn. DWG is 1-1 and GRF is 0-1, both already dropping one game, both being their first game. With IG being 2-0 and TL looking solid, whether DWG will make out of group C is even a question. Showmaker's performance is looking really shakey, and as the first seed from NA, however, TL is looking decent, as always, consistency was always TL's specialty.

    and lastly, regional and personal biases aside, for anyone that have watched worlds for a while, for the six teams from EU and NA, it would be god's blessing. if even 3 makes out of groups, which i think would be G2, (Super strong team), TL, and maybe Fnatic, (yet, after watching RNG vs SKT today, I doubt FNC would have a chance to survive group C), meanwhile LPL and LCK teams are likely to all get out of groups, dropping maybe one team. So I don't understand where all the NA and EU hype in this video is coming from.

    My personal ranking would be.
    Group A
    G2 5-1
    GRF 3-3
    C9 3-3
    HKA 1-5

    Group B
    FPX 4-2
    SPL 3-3
    J Team 2-4
    GAM 0-6

    Group C
    SKT 5-1
    RNG 4-2
    FNC 3-3
    CG 1-5

    Group D
    IG 5-1
    TL 4-2
    DWG 3-3
    AHQ 1-5

    Anyways, just my personal opinion
    ima check back after groups, and damn I would be happy if half of the things I said are right.

    • Yao Zaza
      Yao Zaza  2 days back

      Hi Eric and mark ,Can I translate your videos and put them on the Chinese video website Bilibili? Of course I will indicate the original URL.

      • Cyricjess Cahilig
        Cyricjess Cahilig  2 days back

        FNC loss to skt

        • Zachary Smith
          Zachary Smith  2 days back

          Say "here" one more time, I dare you, I double dog dare you

          • low key
            low key  2 days back

            It seems like you guys didnt do a research about rng's new top laner. He a really good carry player but all you are saying is that he is gonna be a weakness.

            • 1MoreStep
              1MoreStep  2 days back

              TL winning group D, madness !

              • Ibrahim Shakil
                Ibrahim Shakil  3 days back

                Mark sucks.

                • Martin Lundsgaard
                  Martin Lundsgaard  3 days back

                  TL Will not get Out of Group D...

                  • Martin Lundsgaard
                    Martin Lundsgaard  3 days back

                    I dont like fnc chances in a mage heavy patch..

                    • Miguel Desuyo
                      Miguel Desuyo  3 days back

                      I'm sure huni happy to see again faker and reckless

                      • HATCHER OP
                        HATCHER OP  3 days back

                        SKT overrated like Geng last year

                      • Krisztián Tóth
                        Krisztián Tóth  3 days back

                        I seriously doubt TL would ever win Group D. There is no possible scenario, where i can see them being no. 1

                        • Enu
                          Enu  3 days back

                          Group Ds prediction seem ridicolous too me.
                          Ya saw Damwons Players and carrys they are probably the best there are of any in the group

                          • Lala Satalin Deviluke
                            Lala Satalin Deviluke  3 days back

                            I feel sorry for ClutchGaming :(

                            • Unchained
                              Unchained  3 days back

                              why do you pretend that you have a break in the middle of a 20 min video lol

                              • SB Azevedo
                                SB Azevedo  3 days back

                                I'm so happy to see faker in worlds again...!! I bet skt 1 in group. AND THEY REALLY SHOW US IN LCK SUMMER

                                • Bảo Huỳnh Quốc
                                  Bảo Huỳnh Quốc  3 days back

                                  Didnt expect u guys to have such high hope for GAM,... it's kinda heartwarming for a Vietnamese fan :> Thank you!

                                  • Melvin The Goat
                                    Melvin The Goat  4 days back

                                    Lol these guys are hilarious sucking EU dick. Can’t wait for them to be disappointed

                                    • S A
                                      S A  4 days back

                                      Picking G2-GRF, FPX-GAM, SKT-RNG DWG-IG.

                                      A: I don't think C9 can match G2 and GRF in any lanes.
                                      B: FPX is an easy choice and GAM and SPY probab gonna go 3-3 tie breaker.
                                      C: toughest group to predict but SKT just looks more balanced and stronger than both RNG and FNC. RNG prob gonna come out 2nd with maybe 1 more loss than SKT. I just don't think Nemesis-Broxah will win over Clid/Faker and Karsa/Xiaohu
                                      D: Liquid is going to bleed so badly on the top side against just... stronger laners. the MSI win over IG was a fluke. only xfactor for IG is their jgl but their laners are just too good

                                      • Huy Vu
                                        Huy Vu  4 days back

                                        Thank you for trusting GAM. They will not disappoint both of you

                                        • Ayanokouji Kiyotaka
                                          Ayanokouji Kiyotaka  4 days back

                                          Honestly I have more faith in C9 getting out of their group than TL. Jensen's the only player from TL that got out of their group last year and I don't see him besting Showmaker or Rookie.

                                          • Yun Fu
                                            Yun Fu  4 days back

                                            But fnatic is terrible lol

                                            • Jonathan Paik
                                              Jonathan Paik  4 days back

                                              Super difficult to decide between RNG or FNC for 2nd seed, but knowing Rekkles has never played well against Uzi in the international stage I'm leaning more on RNG

                                              • Lana Metodieva
                                                Lana Metodieva  4 days back

                                                Guys, I know you are American, so let me tell you - you got it all wrong about the strength of FNC. This team's biggest strength is Hyli-the support. Just look how many supports are banned each game in LEC and how many jg champs, and you'll get it - easy.

                                                • Sah
                                                  Sah  4 days back

                                                  NA team is just a joke you will see when g2 or fnatic will win the worlds

                                                  • Ferenc Szaffenauer
                                                    Ferenc Szaffenauer  4 days back

                                                    GAM has been playing against gutter trash teams all year long. Of course they'll look dominant. Splyce will be fine. Clutch NOT going 0-6 is less likely than Splyce not advancing, that's for sure. Also, giving AHQ a win is a bit insane, they are just bad.

                                                    • Huy Vu
                                                      Huy Vu  4 days back

                                                      and GAM will get second spot because VCS always counters LEC. The only challenge is JTeam and I think GAM can do it. BTW, I am GAM fan so I am a little bit biased. But this group stage is the best chance for GAM to get to quarter final

                                                  • IcarusPanda
                                                    IcarusPanda  4 days back

                                                    Bold prediction Clutch sneaks out of group C second seed. Skt first seed

                                                    • rishabh singh
                                                      rishabh singh  4 days back


                                                      • Alfred peter Sy
                                                        Alfred peter Sy  4 days back

                                                        hays still underestimate ig rng

                                                        • Jose Guardiola
                                                          Jose Guardiola  4 days back

                                                          RNG at 2-4 is crazy

                                                          • Google User
                                                            Google User  4 days back

                                                            skt and either rng or fnc

                                                            • Estrella Vergara
                                                              Estrella Vergara  4 days back

                                                              This is actually so bad explained wtf ,they just prefer eu to win and g2 are overrated as fuck don’t know why btw,yeah they won msi and beat skt and rng but wasn’t full destruction 3 2 and 3 2so dl t expect much of g2 they also nearly lost at lec finals to fnatic they sweep a 2 0 of fnatic

                                                              • Shauncy Aizawa
                                                                Shauncy Aizawa  5 days back

                                                                My predictions
                                                                Group A
                                                                1.G2 or GRF
                                                                3.G2 or GRF

                                                                Group B

                                                                Group C

                                                                Group D

                                                                • Jemmie Xie
                                                                  Jemmie Xie  5 days back

                                                                  Just wait and see all LPL teams get out of the groups

                                                                  • YourStandardsBeDamned
                                                                    YourStandardsBeDamned  4 days back

                                                                    I want all LPL and LCK teams to get out of Worlds. They both give the sexiest Bo5s I've ever seen in Worlds so far. And I want a sexy Worlds, not teams winning because a team choked.

                                                                  • Jemmie Xie
                                                                    Jemmie Xie  4 days back

                                                                    @SFLL Otaku Yea, you betta believe it.

                                                                  • SFLL Otaku
                                                                    SFLL Otaku  4 days back

                                                                    Aight i'll take your word for it xd

                                                                • Jemmie Xie
                                                                  Jemmie Xie  5 days back

                                                                  Just wait and see all LPL teams get out of the groups

                                                                • Christian Lambert Malanog

                                                                  You spoiled it. You said DamWON. They might be 2nd Over IG or TL.

                                                                  • Stickerbrushes
                                                                    Stickerbrushes  5 days back

                                                                    15:05 - 15:19 Mark says "Here" seven times. That's every 2 seconds he says "Here".

                                                                    WTF here dude, here it's so annoying here stop here.

                                                                    • Fey Orzo
                                                                      Fey Orzo  5 days back

                                                                      This season upset probably falls to Group B

                                                                      • MiscYT
                                                                        MiscYT  5 days back

                                                                        C9 always the underdogs. Wait and see.

                                                                        • Jiyeon Park
                                                                          Jiyeon Park  5 days back

                                                                          SKT T1,FNC

                                                                          • Kenvú A túrmikszgép

                                                                            You are underestimate RNG. They probably get out of groups. "bot lead does not count because kobbe had huge lead agains UOL and stil lose" wtf. Splyce support and midlane solo dies whenever they took a baron. RNG wont do that favor to FNC. Honestly the only chance to win for FNC if they draft an apc botlane or Garen+yummmi. FNC has more chance to beat SKT with a good early game but SKT will probably 2-0 RNG because their superior teamfight tactics.

                                                                            • Gnralex
                                                                              Gnralex  5 days back

                                                                              G2 GRF , FPX SPY , SKT FNC, IG DWG. I really want to put C9 instead of griffin but its kinda hard to put that as a prediction. It would be easier once we see them play but from now GRF are more likely too. Same with TL and DWG

                                                                              • Mindaugas Budrys
                                                                                Mindaugas Budrys  5 days back

                                                                                And Splyce go second in group B

                                                                              • Eddie Winchester
                                                                                Eddie Winchester  5 days back

                                                                                How delusional to put fnc first in group c

                                                                                • Eddie Winchester
                                                                                  Eddie Winchester  1 days back

                                                                                  @Mindaugas Budrys Delusional

                                                                                • Nikidein
                                                                                  Nikidein  3 days back

                                                                                  @Phlix Carbon meta has changed, rng has stayed the same while fnc has evolved, I think fnc will get 2nd, behind skt

                                                                                • Phlix Carbon
                                                                                  Phlix Carbon  4 days back

                                                                                  RNG always gets out of groups and Always beats Fnatic. Not sure what's different this time?

                                                                                • Isomer Soma
                                                                                  Isomer Soma  4 days back

                                                                                  Nah it isnt that unlikely. Tbh FNC could go 3rd or 1st. These 3 teams are all incredibly good and in a best of one any of them could win over the other or not.

                                                                                • Mindaugas Budrys
                                                                                  Mindaugas Budrys  5 days back

                                                                                  @kaizoku luffy It's between Skt and Rng who will go to quaters. In my opinion 50/50

                                                                              • Mindaugas Budrys
                                                                                Mindaugas Budrys  5 days back

                                                                                Fnc and RNG

                                                                                • Bradlee Cyrus Fernandez

                                                                                  As much as i want to witness SKT to make out of groups. I think it will not be an easy one. Hope they make it as 1st seed tho

                                                                                  • HATCHER OP
                                                                                    HATCHER OP  3 days back

                                                                                    @kaizoku luffy you must be blind

                                                                                  • kaizoku luffy
                                                                                    kaizoku luffy  5 days back

                                                                                    skt has never lost to rng when it counted even when they looked like shit in 2017 also this isn't msi where they only had a week to adapt to play g2 and IG they had an entire month so yes skt should make it out of that group

                                                                                • Isaiah Perry
                                                                                  Isaiah Perry  5 days back

                                                                                  Go Clutch Gaming!!!

                                                                                  • Radek Hrubý
                                                                                    Radek Hrubý  5 days back

                                                                                    My predictions - NA is not making out of groups :D